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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by phreack »

jcoffland wrote: post #514

Without Tab Mix Plus Firefox 57 is not an option for me. Does anyone know of an extension that allows multiple tab rows? Tab Trees and like extensions don't cut it. This is the main reason I never switched to Chrome. It's too bad FF had to abandon it's massive library of legacy extensions for this upgrade. The myriad of extensions is one of FF's main benefits over other browsers. I've happily accepted lower performan…

Absolutely, the one reason I had never left Firefox's side during Chrome's best moments were the few extensions like Bamboo RSS reader and Tab Mix Plus, which I never found good alternatives to and just were indispensable once I tried them.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by DeepYogurt »

jcoffland wrote: post #514

Without Tab Mix Plus Firefox 57 is not an option for me. Does anyone know of an extension that allows multiple tab rows? Tab Trees and like extensions don't cut it. This is the main reason I never switched to Chrome. It's too bad FF had to abandon it's massive library of legacy extensions for this upgrade. The myriad of extensions is one of FF's main benefits over other browsers. I've happily accepted lower performan…

Firefox 56 still works.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by slrz »

Yoric wrote: post #281
wpietri wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you'll hear a zillion complaints, but I really appreciate you folks doing this. I've been using a beta version for the last few months on one of my computers and it's so very much better. I can't wait to have it everywhere. As long as you're here: I was told that the old extension API was way too broad, locking in a lot of design choices that were not really considered from the "do we want to maintain this f…

(thanks :) ) > As long as you're here: I was told that the old extension API was way too broad, locking in a lot of design choices that were not really considered from the "do we want to maintain this for years and years" perspective. And that the new one is much more focused and considered. Is that the case? Definitely. The old extension mechanism was basically "here is the toolkit we are using to build Firefox, com…

Thank you for your work on Firefox.

> This WebExtension API is much smaller, much better documented, and does not expose internals-only stuff.

It also doesn't expose a lot of stuff that's useful and not tied to Firefox internals in any way.

The browser is one of the most heavily used programs on people's computers. Integrating it with the rest of your system and workflow can have huge payoffs in user experience and productivity. The traditional XUL-based extension system, while not always pretty, allowed for that. WebExtensions are severely lacking here and some of that seems by design.

As an example, I'm still trying to figure out a non-insane way to implement something akin to the It's All Text extension that allows editing text areas on websites using a proper text editor.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mook »

cptskippy wrote: post #331
jp_rider wrote: post #234

If you'd like to disable pocket, here are instructions: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1025-disabling-pocket-in-...

Unfortunately that doesn't disable the "Recommended by Pocket" crap on the New Tab Window. I have Firefox installed on 8 different machines and the option to remove "Recommended by Pocket" in the New Tab Preferences only appears in half of them. If you're missing the option then you can open about:config and set "browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.section.topstories" to false to get rid of it. I also blew away…

Huh, going through the prefs there it looks like they probably have telemetry going on in the new tab page. Where all your history goes.

I miss the Mozilla that actually acted like they cared about privacy.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by scholia »

chippy wrote: post #57
eoger wrote: post #22

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Have a look here [0] for legacy extensions replacements. [0] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU...

That list is missing Hide Caption Titlebar Plus https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-caption-...

I searched but failed to find a substitute for that....

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Sylos »

CaptSpify wrote: post #361
flyinghamster wrote: post #305

Just updated it on Android... and I wish I hadn't. The very first thing I was greeted with on the "top sites" page was a bunch of "Recommended by Pocket" links, and no way to disable that. I can't find anything in about:config to disable this either. How about NO, goddammit? Shame on you, Mozilla.

That pissed me off too. When did Mozilla become an advertiser?

They own Pocket. This is just their own content recommendation engine. No payments involved. An attempt to make the web rely less on search engines.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by jcoffland »

DeepYogurt wrote: post #522
jcoffland wrote: post #514

Without Tab Mix Plus Firefox 57 is not an option for me. Does anyone know of an extension that allows multiple tab rows? Tab Trees and like extensions don't cut it. This is the main reason I never switched to Chrome. It's too bad FF had to abandon it's massive library of legacy extensions for this upgrade. The myriad of extensions is one of FF's main benefits over other browsers. I've happily accepted lower performan…

Firefox 56 still works.

You have to go back to 55 to get legacy extensions to work.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by urda »

MadWombat wrote: post #485
alexandrerond wrote: post #422

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Years of work to make Firefox the fastest browser. Countless research and engineering hours. With actual amazing, noticeable results as soon as you try it. With a bunch of useful UI features. "But tabs aren't curved, so fuck these guys! I won't upgrade!" Oh well...

I didn't have any complaints about speed. Who actually cares about browser speed? But I do care that suddenly, my browser looks completely different, half the functionality I use is missing and there is no way for me to get it back. The fact that this happened as an automatic upgrade without as much as asking me whether or not I want it to happen is not exactly a winning point either. Edit: It seems that I was too ha…

> Who actually cares about browser speed?

Pretty much every end user, especially non-tech related end users.

It's kind of a huge deal FYI.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by dymk »

Finnucane wrote: post #518
dymk wrote: post #497

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An ad agency has a big incentive to keep your user data to themselves, as that's their most valuable and competitive resource. Google and Facebook have a huge incentive to not leak information about their users; why would someone pay them if that data was available elsewhere? DDG has every incentive to sell user data, given that they don't have their own ad network with which to target. How else would they make money…

https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates

My point is that "they're not an ad agency" is not an argument that a company has some incentive to protect user privacy, and "they're an ad agency" is not an argument that a company is incentivized to sell user data.
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