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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Barrin92 »

MadWombat wrote: post #485
alexandrerond wrote: post #422

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Years of work to make Firefox the fastest browser. Countless research and engineering hours. With actual amazing, noticeable results as soon as you try it. With a bunch of useful UI features. "But tabs aren't curved, so fuck these guys! I won't upgrade!" Oh well...

I didn't have any complaints about speed. Who actually cares about browser speed? But I do care that suddenly, my browser looks completely different, half the functionality I use is missing and there is no way for me to get it back. The fact that this happened as an automatic upgrade without as much as asking me whether or not I want it to happen is not exactly a winning point either. Edit: It seems that I was too ha…

>Who actually cares about browser speed?

I do. I can't use a browser that does not feel snappy. I couldn't care less about whether tab edges are round or not.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by liuw »

callahad wrote: post #182
liuw wrote: post #59

I'm using it now. It is really snappy! There are bugs though. I'm using Debian Stretch. Right click menu doesn't work: it appears for a fraction of a second then disappears; so does the top-bar menu of LastPass plugin.

Huh, I can't replicate that in Fedora. Are you using a binary downloaded from Mozilla directly, or from one of the various Debian APT repos? Can you email me with more info (my HN username @mozilla.com), especially what desktop environment you're using, X vs Wayland, etc.

I downloaded the tarball from Mozilla website. I use i3 with X.

I'm happy to provide more information via email.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by raller »

callahad wrote: post #492
toweringgoat wrote: post #474

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Privacy is about the same, Mozilla Corporation (who distribute the browser) aren't non-profit, both are open source. Correct on community maybe.

The privacy situation is absolutely different; Mozilla has no profit motive to monitor and monetize your activity on the Web. For example, Firefox Sync is specifically designed so that we have no knowledge of your browsing data. In contrast, when you sign into Chrome, "Your experience in other Google products is personalized by including your Chrome history with your Web & App Activity."( https://support.google.com/c…

> The privacy situation is absolutely different

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/74n0b2/mozilla_shi...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by coldtea »

MadWombat wrote: post #485
alexandrerond wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years of work to make Firefox the fastest browser. Countless research and engineering hours. With actual amazing, noticeable results as soon as you try it. With a bunch of useful UI features. "But tabs aren't curved, so fuck these guys! I won't upgrade!" Oh well...

I didn't have any complaints about speed. Who actually cares about browser speed? But I do care that suddenly, my browser looks completely different, half the functionality I use is missing and there is no way for me to get it back. The fact that this happened as an automatic upgrade without as much as asking me whether or not I want it to happen is not exactly a winning point either. Edit: It seems that I was too ha…

>Who actually cares about browser speed?

Millions of people who've switched to Chrome. Including hundreds that have said as much in HN comments over the last 5 years.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Sylos »

contravariant wrote: post #314
shabbyrobe wrote: post #118

Just installed it, looks like the update overrode my previously set default of a blank "new tab" page in favour of their overly fancy, ad infested "new tab experience" page. Looks like it's time for another scan of about:config for any other nasties they decided to sneak in there this time.

I would be happy if I could just get a new tab that responded to addon defined gestures and hotkeys. Best solution so far seems to be to use the New Tab Override addon and point it to a blank page somewhere online.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with that, so I can't test it, but have you tried about:blank? So, just give it "about:blank" as URL in New Tab Override.

That's a blank page, as you might have guessed, but it's built into Firefox, so should load a lot faster. Really don't know, though, if Firefox actually treats it like a webpage or not.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by masterleep »

callahad wrote: post #433
oliv__ wrote: post #419

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Was thinking of upgrading...until now. Can anyone post a screenshot?

Plenty of screenshots at https://mozilla.org/firefox/ , but I'd suggest giving it a shot yourself. Lots of work went into cleaning up the UI, adding appropriate, subtle animations, etc. On macOS, the titlebar and sidebars use platform's "vibrancy" effects, etc.

I wish the animations were more subtle!

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by masterleep »

callahad wrote: post #442
masterleep wrote: post #355

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The loading animations are really distracting and bad. Some better UI to disable them (or ideally just get rid of them by default) is needed.

If you dislike them, you can disable those kinds of animations by toggling `toolkit.cosmeticAnimations.enabled` in `about:config`

There's a big scary warning about making any changes in about:config, so I'm reluctant to do so.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by hudbuddy »

callahad wrote: post #475
manojlds wrote: post #441

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If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

I tend to use Chrome for its devtools, but I'd add WebRTC support to the list of things Firefox excels at

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by benlower »

manojlds wrote: post #441
parmesan wrote: post #116

I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011

If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

because Google has the worst biz model in the tech industry and is doing harm to the world.
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