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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#182
post #59

I'm using it now. It is really snappy! There are bugs though. I'm using Debian Stretch. Right click menu doesn't work: it appears for a fraction of a second then disappears; so does the top-bar menu of LastPass plugin.

Huh, I can't replicate that in Fedora. Are you using a binary downloaded from Mozilla directly, or from one of the various Debian APT repos? Can you email me with more info (my HN username @mozilla.com), especially what desktop environment you're using, X vs Wayland, etc.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#185
post #146

I'd feel a little better if the words "secure" or "security" appeared at least once in the marketing material: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/57.0/whatsnew/ , https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ .

what concerns do you have regarding firefox’s security?

It's just that if security is a core priority, you'd expect to see this mentioned at least once. Based on what I read, the core priorities are speed, privacy, and convenience.

Compare this to Chrome, Safari, and Edge (tagline: "A fast and secure browser that's designed for Windows 10"): https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/features.html, https://www.apple.com/safari/, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge.

Perhaps this is just a marketing or internal communication issue. Did somebody from security engineering have a seat at the table when the Firefox 57 marketing material was discussed?

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#186
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla doesn't create all those extensions. And the extensions' authors had, what, two years advance warning or so? Criticize the real culpits, not Mozilla.

My browser and extensions did useful things yesterday that they do not do today. Who changed something in the meantime? Obviously I paid nothing for Firefox and Mozilla owes me the same nothing in return, but if it wants to keep users and remain significant, breaking arguably its main advantage might not be the best plan.

Use 52ESR.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#187
post #181

For those who look for NoScript replacement, uMatrix[0] (from the maker of uBlock Origin) has got you covered (with "A Desperately Needed User’s Guide"[1]). [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [1] http://adamantine.me/index.php/2015/11/18/umatrix-desperatel...

Tried this. It was too complicated and slow enabling every subdomain by hand.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#188
post #84
post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

This new release is all about attracting new users to FF from Chrome. It will hurt those of us who actively have been using and living with Firefox. In time, they say, they will bring back the various APIs for the extensions (although it's still "might" and there's no timeline yet) - so in the meantime, if you liked FF for it's customisation, we just have to suck it up. It's similar to when Ubuntu moved to Unity and…

Plenty of us have been using and living with Firefox without using one of the deprecated functions of XUL, or using them minimally. For those of us this release has been fantastic, and I'd wager we make up a considerably larger proportion of the userbase.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#189
post #145
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla doesn't create all those extensions. And the extensions' authors had, what, two years advance warning or so? Criticize the real culpits, not Mozilla.

Two years without the APIs making a port possible.

Two years without saying which APIs they needed.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#190
post #181

For those who look for NoScript replacement, uMatrix[0] (from the maker of uBlock Origin) has got you covered (with "A Desperately Needed User’s Guide"[1]). [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [1] http://adamantine.me/index.php/2015/11/18/umatrix-desperatel...

There's no need for a NoScript replacement. Giorgio Maone (author of NoScript) says NoScript for Firefox 57 will be released today:

https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/

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