Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

How Firefox Got Fast Again

hacks.mozilla.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

301–310 of 713 posts

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#301

Post by callahad »

ArmandGrillet wrote: post #144

I just installed Firefox 57 (thanks jacek for the link) and the first things I noticed are: - The cross to close a tab and the one to create a tab are aligned in a weird way. - Opening a tab is laggy (I'm on a MBP with an Intel Iris chip and 16GB of RAM). - The scrolling still does not feel native (I'm on macOS High Sierra). I'm very impressed by the work that has been done for this release as a dev but this does not…

If you set your screen resolution to "default for display" in System Preferences, does the scrolling feel closer to native?

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#302

Post by hendersoon »

Mouse gestures in Linux and MacOS are completely broken due to a known bug. They have a Linux patch likely slated for version 58 (in 6 weeks) but no MacOS patch yet.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1360278

Mouse gestures are critically important to me, so I'm sticking with Vivaldi until this is fixed.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#303

Post by icc97 »

Thorncorona wrote: post #201
e40 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The signing into an account in chrome is the killer feature for me. I have work and a couple of personal accounts that I have signed in in different browser windows. That allows me to keep things separate (extensions, mail, browsing, bookmarks, etc). How do FF users do this?

FF just came out with multi account containers about a month ago -> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Firefox containers are awesome. Once you've got a GMail account it's really easy to fall into the trap of letting Google track your everything. GMail, Google searches, Google Maps, You Tube.

Containers splits them out beautifully, with minimal tracking.

With Chrome / Chromium, Google wants you to log-in using a Google account, so you fall into the trap again.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#304

Post by kuschku »

bjterry wrote: post #243
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #144

I just installed Firefox 57 (thanks jacek for the link) and the first things I noticed are: - The cross to close a tab and the one to create a tab are aligned in a weird way. - Opening a tab is laggy (I'm on a MBP with an Intel Iris chip and 16GB of RAM). - The scrolling still does not feel native (I'm on macOS High Sierra). I'm very impressed by the work that has been done for this release as a dev but this does not…

It also feels laggy to me. It's weird given the reports of all these other users. I am also using a 16GB Ram, Intel Iris MBP. There is a noticeable pause while switching tabs, and there is a very noticeable lag while typing (for example in this box). Pages do seem to render fast, but it feels very laggy in terms of user interaction. Edit: The scrolling is also very laggy, which I forgot to mention, much more so than…

> Edit: The scrolling is also very laggy, which I forgot to mention, much more so than Chrome.

Firefox uses smooth scrolling, while Chrome always uses very jerky, jumping scrolling.

Have you tried disabling that?

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#305

Post by frik »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #297
frik wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox 56 is actually pretty good. It's now fast again. I am using a fresh new profile. Please let me increase "content process count" higher than 7. Chrome opens hundreds of child-processes (no problem at all on my PC). And I am still keeping an older Firefox 48 around, as it's the last version that runs Firebug and other good but now unsupported addons. Firebug had this "DOM" panel which showed the non-default DOM…

dom.ipc.processCount in about:config

Thanks a lot! I increased it to 50, it Works great. Please remove the UI restriction with the next release.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#306

Post by pcwalton »

acqq wrote: post #268
pcwalton wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So what's going on here? It's just the propaganda machine claiming the opposite of what is actually happening at the moment. They maybe have good goals but at the moment it's worse than, for example, a year ago. It sounds like you are hitting some kind of bug. Feel free to file issues about it if it's reproducible; the telemetry should also be automatically reporting the issues you're seeing. I would like to respec…

Slowdown on Facebook and Youtube up to getting stuck (exactly what I talk about) was reported in some form at least since February this year, e.g. this Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/5sikxt/firefox_unb... I've found that link after my GF complained many times, and I've seen the CPU at more than 90% (40% in Kernel) and Firefox stuck after only her visiting Facebook and scrolling down. It was hard ev…

If it is indeed style recalculation that is causing the problem, then Quantum (57) may well solve the issue, as Stylo both improves the dynamic restyling behavior (the style sharing optimization is more flexible) and accelerates the slow case in which restyling needs to occur from scratch (via parallelism). I can't promise anything without being able to reproduce, of course.

Naturally, like all browser engines, Gecko takes performance on popular sites such as Facebook very seriously.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#307

Post by Kubuxu »

enraged_camel wrote: post #123
mariusmg wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't it keep you away from Chrome ? It's faster, uses less memory, and the "maker", Mozilla is more trustworthy compared with Google. What's missing ?

Chrome Dev Tools. Firefox’s dev tools simply aren’t as good. There are also many features in Chrome that I’ve come to appreciate, such as right clicking a tab and selecting “duplicate”, which opens a copy of the tab and retains the browser history of the original one.

Ctrl-Click on Refresh button acts as duplicate tab in FF for a long time. I am not sure why this option is so hidden but it works.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#308

Post by eloisant »

voidmain wrote: post #284
orbat wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People seem to have the laughable idea that somehow only government censorship is bad, or that corporations aren't capable of censorship in the first place because they're private entities. I mean, yes, the world will look like that if you reduce everything to contractual relationships like libertarians seem to do, but personally I hope we could hold corporations accountable for actions like these. Like it or not, we…

> Why shouldn't we hold corporations to the same standards as governments? Because one of these organizations can throw you into a cage to be raped and tortured for the rest of your life, and the other can deny you access to some fairly useful web apps.

Denying someone's access to his own email inbox can have dramatic consequences on his life. Not as dramatic as being detained and tortured obviously, but still pretty serious.

There is already a case where private companies can't shut down their service to you as they wish, it's utilities (water, electricity, gas). I hope we can recognize at some point that Internet access should count as a utility too, and some core services like email service too.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#309

Post by snuxoll »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #277
jorvi wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, if you are on macOS, just use Safari. Most extension you want/need are there (or the are suitable replacements. cVim and sVim are pretty close if you don't dive to deep, for example). Adblocking is actually faster than on any other browser because the blockers use the same Content Blocking API as on iOS Safari. And then the battery life... you easily get 2-4h more just by using Safari. Which brings me to my…

It looks like people are downvoting this. Perhaps it's because of the tone of the first sentence; if we rephrase it to "If you're on macOS, why not just use Safari?" I think it's a reasonable question. There are reasonable answers -- Safari's extensions aren't quite as capable as the other two, so it's possible you're relying on an extension that Safari doesn't have and can never duplicate, and of course if you need…

Firefox is my default browser anywhere but macOS, owning an iPhone and iPad I end up using the continuity features in Safari quite heavily when I've been browsing something on my phone or tablet and want to pick it up on my iMac.

I love Firefox, and owning an iMac I'm not terribly concerned about the power efficiency difference between the two - but damn if it isn't convenient to have the ability to just pick up where I left off.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

#310

Post by Manishearth »

e40 wrote: post #193
mapgrep wrote: post #52

I switched back to Firefox 54 from Chrome when multiprocess browsing ("Electrolysis") came out of beta. It's been absolutely great. It's fast and I trust and like the nonprofit behind it. And all the extensions I care about are available. My main issue with Chrome was the endless nags to sign in to a Google account, and just generally wanting less dependence on Google. I also like that Firefox has a built in tracking…

The signing into an account in chrome is the killer feature for me. I have work and a couple of personal accounts that I have signed in in different browser windows. That allows me to keep things separate (extensions, mail, browsing, bookmarks, etc). How do FF users do this?

Container tabs in Firefox lets you do this within a single window.

about:profiles gives you the same functionality as Chrome's profiles; it's just a bit harder to discover.

Post reply on HN