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Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by asveikau »

floofyfloofer wrote: post #148
asveikau wrote: post #47

Of all the things in humanity to show outrage about, even limiting oneself to considering outrageous topics that made it to reddit posts, this seems very small. I would figure the most downvoted comment in history would show something grotesque.

Unbridled greed is pretty grotesque.

Of all things you can do to a person, I think mis-pricing something in a video game and a subsequent PR blunder is very small potatoes. Even if we restrict to your phrase "unbridled greed" and exclude more serious topics like physical harm and abuse, there is a lot more of that going on that is worse than this.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by bunderbunder »

dvlsg wrote: post #118
bunderbunder wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So there's a market for these kinds of games. I don't like microtransactions and what they do for gameplay, either. But I don't see the point in getting worked up about it like this. It's so much easier to just not buy those games, and spend my money on the kinds of games I do enjoy, instead. It leaves me thinking that maybe melodramatic wailing on Reddit is secretly a big part of the fun.

That's part of the problem, though. For a lot of these games, the player does enjoy them - just not the loot boxes and how they have affected how quickly "free" players can unlock things.

I guess I still don't see the problem, then.

Is the problem that EA has some sort of moral obligation to introduce only the kinds of game mechanics that a specific set of people enjoys, and anyone who responds to (and, apparently, is willing to pay a whole lot of money for) different game mechanics can go jump in a lake?

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by EpicEng »

darklajid wrote: post #139
EpicEng wrote: post #65

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Except blizzard has a huge pobpem with stolen accounts. This is one way in which they fight that. Yes it's annoying, but people sink thousands of hours into their games and are generally ok with the inconvenience if it means their account is more secure. For someone like you it may not make sense, but you're not the user they instituted these policies for. And blizzard gets crap _constantly_ from their user base, you…

I am on those forums. How does this protect me (or more likely: them)? I disable 2FA (..), give you my credentials or you brute force them: You own my account. How's that related with "I moved"? And why would you ever. ever. ever give a random company your government ID? Facebook to unblock your account? Hell no! Google Plus for the same reason? Certainly not and never. Blizzard because you changed the place you live…

Your government issued ID is no secret and it doesn't contain any information I couldn't easily get elsewhere if I really wanted to. You hand it over to people all of the time for trivial things.

If your account is locked due to suspicious activity (as it was in your case) then Blizzard's only options are to A) just allow it (your account is gone) or B) make you verify that you are who you say you are. I don't think B is unreasonable.

And you didn't just 'move'; you moved _countries_. I didn't get locked out when I moved from CA to TX, but moving countries isn't all that common and they only have so much contextual information with which to make a decision.

>I am on those forums

Then you should already know Blizzard takes grief for this and many other things all of the time.

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+does+blizzard+wnat+my+id...

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by atrus »

executesorder66 wrote: post #158
malikNF wrote: post #11

Looks like everything they are posting is getting down-voted. https://www.reddit.com/user/EACommunityTeam

And yet they still have positive karma. Most upvoted comment: +318 Most downvoted comment: -377k Somehow this results in 7,438 comment karma for the user. What the hell reddit? edit: and no, the sum of the rest of their comments does not add up anywhere near 377k.

Reddit limits how much a single comment can effect your overall karma score. This was done to slow down negative karma trolls.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by bjt2n3904 »

bbatha wrote: post #102
bjt2n3904 wrote: post #37

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Gamers aren't known for their resolve. I remember when Modern Warfare 2 came out (eight years ago) without the option to run private servers, which resulted in this rather famous image: http://i.imgur.com/MLZ0bMu.png That being said, 40 hours doesn't seem like an awful amount of time to sink into a game to unlock a character. Heck, I'm ashamed to talk about how many hours I've put into CS:GO, and it's only triple dig…

> That being said, 40 hours doesn't seem like an awful amount of time to sink into a game to unlock a character. Heck, I'm ashamed to talk about how many hours I've put into CS:GO, and it's only triple digits. Its not the 40 hours. Its the fact that its 40 hours or $10 In previous iterations of the series these types of characters were only available for free, and to every player with in a couple of hours.

> Its not the 40 hours.

Perhaps, but the ridiculous and disproportionate controversy over Cuphead makes me think otherwise.

There's a fine line between "achievements" and "play to win", and I'm sure this is testing this boundary. I just think the response is ridiculous. We're talking about entertainment, not health care.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by frik »

bunderbunder wrote: post #19

I'm continually fascinated by the gaming community's relationship with EA. It's like, "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me 37 times. . . ahh, what the hey, let's throw another 60 quid in this hole. I'm sure this time it'll be different."

I recently attended a marketing conf, and Electric Arts employees were so pround of ripping of so called whales and their gamification and gambling features in their new Triple-A games. They guys I spoke with had no clue about games, they were not gamers. They said it's all about statistics, KPIs and marketing.

Remembering the 1980s and 1990s era of awesome Electronic Arts games (their games were really arts), it's so tragic.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by fleitz »

deadmetheny wrote: post #124
fleitz wrote: post #109

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How annoying UX affects the bottom line was one of the most important lessons I learned working on apps. Take for example removing the Cancel button from the sign up screen, 5-10% bump in sign ups, etc. (Eventually Apple made us 'fix' this) Generally, the only time a minorly annoying UX affects you negatively is when the platform penalizes it, like the notifications prompt on iOS, if they don't agree the first time y…

I hope you're proud of yourself for actively making software user hostile.

The users speak with their actions... If they do the thing you want them to do more with a 'bad' UX than with a good one logic dictates they prefer the bad one.

It would be morally presumptuous on my part to say that what I find to be annoying is not what they prefer.

It's like clickbait listicles, they get written because they work.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by poizan42 »

executesorder66 wrote: post #159
poizan42 wrote: post #7

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The amount of karma you can lose from a single comment is limited to a quite small number

source?

It's part of the anti-spam/anti-cheat system so the exact details are kept secret, but you can find a few places where people have done some experiments such as [0]. The exact behavior is not completely clear though, it might be a hard cutoff or it might be diminishing returns, possibly a combination, but at least people don't seem to lose even 100 karma even after 10Ks of downvotes.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/18r63h/does...

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by DerekL »

Pigo wrote: post #20

If people hate EA so much, why do they keep buying their games? It's not like Time Warner, with a monopoly you can't avoid.

> It's not like Time Warner, with a monopoly you can't avoid.

What monopoly? Time Warner has many different businesses and products, so you need to be specific.

Re: The most downvoted comment in Reddit's history

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Post by aerique »

Balgair wrote: post #98
CydeWeys wrote: post #40

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Exactly the same with me. I never buy games at launch and I tend to stay away from F2P games entirely. There's way too many games coming out compared to the free time I have available to play them, so I've accepted that I'm never going to play the vast majority of releases. Others need to come to that same realization -- it's perfectly fine to skip a game if the company's practices suck. As for what I have been playi…

On Factorio and those kinda game: To me, Factorio is very basically just simplified Eagle with monsters (Eagle is PCB designer software). You have underground belts (vias), smelters (ICs), inserters (Caps, resistors, 2 lead parts). Then you throw some monsters in there to give some random fuzz on the designs and make things a bit more 'spicy'. Mincraft is much the same, it's a very basic Solidworks. You can extrude a…

The EVE-Online marketplace should satisfy the "kinda Wall-Street software" requirement.

(No I'm not making the spreadsheets in space joke.)

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