UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
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Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#2So basically they can choose the colour of the glitter on the turd we're going to have to eat?
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#3not really sure why this is that interesting, the UK will still drop out of the EU in March 2019 even if Parliament rejects the deal
so it's not a case of "Parliament rejects, UK stays in"
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#4not really sure why this is that interesting, the UK will still drop out of the EU in March 2019 even if Parliament rejects the deal so it's not a case of "Parliament rejects, UK stays in"
It’s news because this is part of May’s attempt to convince people that Brexit is set in stone, and irreversible.
Edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/legal-advice-brexit-can-be-re...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/10/brexit-date...
More nuance: http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/63955?lang=en
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#5This is only useful if the binding vote is to decide whether to accept the deal or revert Article 50.
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#6not really sure why this is that interesting, the UK will still drop out of the EU in March 2019 even if Parliament rejects the deal so it's not a case of "Parliament rejects, UK stays in"
It’s news because this is part of May’s attempt to convince people that Brexit is set in stone, and irreversible. Edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/legal-advice-brexit-can-be-re... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/10/brexit-date... More nuance: http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/63955?lang=en
This news doesn't mean it's reversible. If the parliament rejects the deal PM negotiates, UK will still leave the EU - just without said deal.
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#7not really sure why this is that interesting, the UK will still drop out of the EU in March 2019 even if Parliament rejects the deal so it's not a case of "Parliament rejects, UK stays in"
It's interesting because it will allow debate, something that has been in very short supply during this whole process.
The British people deserve to know what is going to happen to them in 2019, even if it's irreversible. The current government has made it quite clear they don't agree with that, so they'll have to be forced into it.
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#8This is only useful if the binding vote is to decide whether to accept the deal or revert Article 50.
EU rules don't allow article 50 to be reverted. The binding vote is between accepting the deal and a hard drop.
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#9This is only useful if the binding vote is to decide whether to accept the deal or revert Article 50.
The idea that Article 50 is unilaterally reversible is an odd one. I know that one of the people that helped write it says it was written with that intent, but the wording gives no indication or mechanism to reverse it.
And if it is unilaterally reversible, surely that's a really bad thing? There are two reasons I can think of for that. Firstly, countries might start to use it as a form of leverage and brinkmanship in order to extract concessions or exert their will over the EU. And secondly, if the EU doesn't want a country to leave for whatever reason, it's a huge incentive to stall and mess up any sort of talks or prospective trading relationship in order to scare them or force their hands. Basically it allows for a lot more "playing politics" and makes for a far less honest exit process.
A retraction of A 50 followed by a multilateral vote to accept or reject that reversion, I can see that working.
Re: UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal
#10This is only useful if the binding vote is to decide whether to accept the deal or revert Article 50.
EU rules don't allow article 50 to be reverted. The binding vote is between accepting the deal and a hard drop.
> EU rules don't allow article 50 to be reverted
Those rules can be changed by the unanimous opinion of European states. Practically speaking, the deal Britain had before is gone. It might be able to re-enter if it gives up its asterisks, though. Bone-headed move by its people, either way.