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How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by DiThi »

enraged_camel wrote: post #123
mariusmg wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't it keep you away from Chrome ? It's faster, uses less memory, and the "maker", Mozilla is more trustworthy compared with Google. What's missing ?

Chrome Dev Tools. Firefox’s dev tools simply aren’t as good. There are also many features in Chrome that I’ve come to appreciate, such as right clicking a tab and selecting “duplicate”, which opens a copy of the tab and retains the browser history of the original one.

Have you tried the dev tools in FF 57? As a FF user with Chrome-as-debugger for 3-4 years, I'm honestly impressed.

FF 57 also has "duplicate tab" with duplicate history.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by DiThi »

leoc wrote: post #158
enraged_camel wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome Dev Tools. Firefox’s dev tools simply aren’t as good. There are also many features in Chrome that I’ve come to appreciate, such as right clicking a tab and selecting “duplicate”, which opens a copy of the tab and retains the browser history of the original one.

The (apparently) continuing lack of tab duplication is my major reason not to switch back.

FF 57 has it.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by balajics »

Using 57 for few days, speed improvements are impressive.

But two things which is going to stop me from complete switch. 1. There is no native websocket inspector. websocket-monitor[0] add-on which supported websocket inspection is not compatible with quantum. Really wish they speed up native support development[1] 2. Double tap zoom really makes it easy to find UI issues. Really wish it get implemented in firefox too.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/websocket-mon... [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885508

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by def_true_false »

Griffinsauce wrote: post #142
mtgx wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those who don't know, if you sign in to your Google account in Chrome, Google will automatically save all the searches you've done in the omnibox. I don't remember Google ever warning me specifically that this was happening in the background, and after I checked https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity and noticed it was doing that, I was so furious that I deleted all the data Google kept on me there, and paused…

It's a Google box... did you not assume that this went to Google?

Google is just the default, you can set it to whatever search engine you like.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by maephisto »

ksk wrote: post #82
maephisto wrote: post #68

One thing that troubles me is why does a non profit open source browser buy premium offline ad space to promote itself? There's a huge "The new Firefox" ad in down-town Berlin.

Why does it trouble you?

Wasn't really aware about MoCo and their deals with all major search engines.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by Paul-ish »

mattmanser wrote: post #18

Serious question, is this too little too late? Firefox has taken a massive nosedive in the last few years, in the UK at least. My two big clients have them on less than 2% share. Just checked one, 5 years ago they had 9.55% share, today it's 1.8%. Even taking into account the growth of mobile, that's dire.

Percentage of total users is deceptive in some ways. The absolute number of FF users can stay the same, or even rise, and their % share can decline. It is absolute number of users that impacts the deals they can make. That's not to say a larger % wouldn't be good for FF.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by darrmit »

I'm patiently waiting for improved profile support and better Chrome add-on support before I can abandon Chrome entirely.

Been running Firefox for my personal browsing almost exclusively for years (with the occasional Chrome use) but I still can't ditch Chrome for work because of a few add-ons that don't work in Firefox - mainly Mixmax.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by cheshire_cat »

enraged_camel wrote: post #123
mariusmg wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't it keep you away from Chrome ? It's faster, uses less memory, and the "maker", Mozilla is more trustworthy compared with Google. What's missing ?

Chrome Dev Tools. Firefox’s dev tools simply aren’t as good. There are also many features in Chrome that I’ve come to appreciate, such as right clicking a tab and selecting “duplicate”, which opens a copy of the tab and retains the browser history of the original one.

To be fair you can have a duplicate browser tab in almost any browser by clicking the back or forward button with mouse3.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by ko27 »

tzs wrote: post #124
mariusmg wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't it keep you away from Chrome ? It's faster, uses less memory, and the "maker", Mozilla is more trustworthy compared with Google. What's missing ?

Faster at what things? On my 2017 iMac (3.4 GHz Core i5, Radeon Pro 570) I get 60 on Mozilla's Speedometer 2.0 [1] test with Firefox 57.0. I get 90 on Chrome and 93 on Safari. On my Surface Pro 4 that gap is smaller, but Chrome is still about 15% faster on that test. [1] https://mozilla.github.io/arewefastyet-speedometer/2.0/

Yeah, they even recently officially posted the speedometer result and it was a few percent behind Chrome. Also some consider Speedometer to be the closest thing to a real user performance benchmark.
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