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How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by r3bl »

pmoriarty wrote: post #92
acdha wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla makes money from having users — it may be open-source but the developers still need to be paid. They don't have a captive audience like Windows or Google.com users to advertise on, so public ads seem necessary.

"Mozilla makes money from having users" Wait, how does that work again? Last I checked you couldn't deposit users at the bank or pay your rent with them.

ELI5 example: The more users you have, the more the search providers (like Google, Yahoo and Yandex) may pay you to be the default search provider in a certain region.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by Danihan »

The one major benchmark I use for browser speed is how fast Tagpro runs, and it's definitely gotten much slower on Firefox recently, to the extent that I need to generally play it on Chrome, even though I normally much prefer Firefox to Chrome.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by [deleted] »

aapjesverkoper wrote: post #12
heliostatic wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Firefox Multi-Account containers are great: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... Multiple profiles within a single window, visually distinguished by tab highlight color.

It looks like this doesn't allow you to separate history, addons, bookmarks, or move your current tab to a container. I am sticking with google for now.

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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by digi_owl »

mattmanser wrote: post #18

Serious question, is this too little too late? Firefox has taken a massive nosedive in the last few years, in the UK at least. My two big clients have them on less than 2% share. Just checked one, 5 years ago they had 9.55% share, today it's 1.8%. Even taking into account the growth of mobile, that's dire.

It may even be worse than that. They have effectively thrown out all that made Firefox distinct in any user facing sense to achieve this.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by eitland »

fabrice_d wrote: post #102
eitland wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends a bit: if devs switch back I'd say definitely. If devs are ready to repeat the IE 6 story, this time with Chrome. Getting companies to do cross browser testing seems hard even if it it should be simpler than ever before.. :-/

Until they figure out a way to address their irrelevance on Mobile, devs will never fully switch since they have to do testing on mobile devices. It is really sad that Gecko is becoming so good, but is mainly used to power a product in what is becoming a niche market (yes, desktop is becoming a niche in terms of users relative to mobile).

I posting from Firefox monile now. It's my main browser.

If I use Chrome only it is for my sockpuppet accounts.

I far prefer FF even on mobile.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by r3bl »

chippy wrote: post #90
Matterrr wrote: post #56

One extension I don't find a replacement for is Hide caption titlebar plus. It makes it so there's a permanent title bar even when Firefox is maximized. I had to change an xfce setting to hide the title bar when a window is maximized, meaning I lose the title bar for every application... Not ideal. Does anyone know if there is an argument to launch firefox without a title bar? Or set it in xfce for only one applicati…

This is my favourite extension also. When using a laptop or other small screen, being able to remove the title bar is essential. I'm not upgrading to 57 until I can find a good workaround. Apparently, one used to be able to manually modify Firefox's userchrome.css to do something similar, but I've yet to find descriptions on what to do with this new version of Firefox. A different broken family of extensions that is…

userChrome.css is still present on Quantum. I haven't played around with it a lot, but if you feel like getting your hands dirty, this should be a relevant resource to you: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx/issues/1

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by m_st »

wbkang wrote: post #33
m_st wrote: post #16

I switched from Chrome to Firefox 57 beta and couldn't be happier. Only issue so far was the ugly black title bar on the Mac, but switching to the integrated 'Light' theme fixed that. Too bad 'Light' isn't the default on macOS. Also note their updated Firefox on iOS. It looks and works just fine now and comes with Firefox Sync which gives you access to your tabs, bookmarks and history.

Same on Windows, I wish the light theme was the default.

I prefer the default theme on Windows 10 as there the title bars of the other windows like Settings and Explorer use the same style, which is the color defined in 'Colors' in the settings. Using the 'Light' theme makes Firefox looking different which isn't nice.

Haven't seen any other black title bar on my Mac though...

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by AnkhMorporkian »

Danihan wrote: post #112

The one major benchmark I use for browser speed is how fast Tagpro runs, and it's definitely gotten much slower on Firefox recently, to the extent that I need to generally play it on Chrome, even though I normally much prefer Firefox to Chrome.

When the new Pixi version is dropped into place (I finished coding that recently) it performs much better on Firefox. I agree that with the current version it's definitely not great.

Edit: Just to be clear, when I say much better, I don't mean much better than chrome, just better than it performs now. When I drop RAF and just run the rendering loop as fast as possible, they get roughly the same FPS on my cheapo laptop.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by bkor »

Matterrr wrote: post #56

One extension I don't find a replacement for is Hide caption titlebar plus. It makes it so there's a permanent title bar even when Firefox is maximized. I had to change an xfce setting to hide the title bar when a window is maximized, meaning I lose the title bar for every application... Not ideal. Does anyone know if there is an argument to launch firefox without a title bar? Or set it in xfce for only one applicati…

Apparently client side decorations might appear in Firefox 59 at the earliest. For me having that negates the need to hide the title bar while maximized.

Under X11 there are various tools to hide the titlebar (entire chrome basically), see devilspie.

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