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It's definitely a better situation than an attacker being able to steal your fingerprint off a glas or other everyday object. Copying a fingerprint requires very little skill.
I thought you needed a 3D fingerprint to fool an iPhone—a holding from an impression in clay rather than a spear on a window.
As a consumer this doesn't worry me as to be able to crack my phone it looks like they would already have to have access to my face to make the mask (and an expert sculpture to make a nose). If they could demonstrate it working from a 3D printed mask taken from a surreptitious scan at distance in the outdoors then I think we'd have reason to be worried. For spies, spooks, government agents etc. I suspect that Face ID…
>If they could demonstrate it working from a 3D printed mask taken from a surreptitious scan at distance in the outdoors then I think we'd have reason to be worried. I would be astonished if state actors are not already well on their way to figuring out how to do this.
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Nitpicking the cost of the labor to build this mask misses the point of the article: face id is much less secure than Apple claims.
What claims have they made? That it can’t be fooled by masks? No. That one in a million other faces can open your phone. That’s still fewer people than could open you phone with Touch ID. At no time that I’m aware have Apple claimed resilience against masks or gelatin fingers.
It's infuriating that each time a mass-produced biometric scanner comes out, it's hogtied by the fact this cheap technology isn't quite good enough yet.
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I thought you needed a 3D fingerprint to fool an iPhone—a holding from an impression in clay rather than a spear on a window.
No, you can put a thin printed 2d fingerprint onto your finger to fool it.
I feel like this demo is not really good. A video where a (real) face is learned in and then the mask is used to unlock would be good, this could just show that the mask is learned into FaceID.
Would it be possible to just capture the IR beams with a camera, and use a projector to send to the phone's sensor a new set of IR points as they would appear if they were projected on an actual 3D model? This would allow to use only a digital model of a face, without the need for printing it.
As a consumer this doesn't worry me as to be able to crack my phone it looks like they would already have to have access to my face to make the mask (and an expert sculpture to make a nose). If they could demonstrate it working from a 3D printed mask taken from a surreptitious scan at distance in the outdoors then I think we'd have reason to be worried. For spies, spooks, government agents etc. I suspect that Face ID…
It's definitely a better situation than an attacker being able to steal your fingerprint off a glas or other everyday object. Copying a fingerprint requires very little skill.
You mean like a phone or something?
So, fingerprints are not "secure", face recognition is not "secure"... Are passwords/double authentication the only way to keep things private and secure these days? Are there any serious alternative?
Fingerprint or face or retina is not a "password", it is a "login". And we should have a proper password in addition to the login, not as a substitute.