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Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

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So how is Uber's runway looking now? This article [1] from August suggests they had just over three years of runway at the end of June ($6.6b burning at about $2b/yr). So this extends the runway by only six months? Are they going to survive long enough to see autonomous drivers? How will this deal affect future funding? [1] https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/23/uber-is-still-burning-cas...

They did just sign a contract with NASA to help fly taxi aeroplanes [1]

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-portugal-websummit-uber/u...

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

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post #21

So how is Uber's runway looking now? This article [1] from August suggests they had just over three years of runway at the end of June ($6.6b burning at about $2b/yr). So this extends the runway by only six months? Are they going to survive long enough to see autonomous drivers? How will this deal affect future funding? [1] https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/23/uber-is-still-burning-cas...

They did just sign a contract with NASA to help fly taxi aeroplanes [1] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-portugal-websummit-uber/u...

Whoa that's pretty crazy. 200 mph flying cars in LA in 3 years? Interesting that it's a NASA project. Hopefully that means we'll get the see how the system works even if it doesn't doesn't pan out.

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

#24

So how is Uber's runway looking now? This article [1] from August suggests they had just over three years of runway at the end of June ($6.6b burning at about $2b/yr). So this extends the runway by only six months? Are they going to survive long enough to see autonomous drivers? How will this deal affect future funding? [1] https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/23/uber-is-still-burning-cas...

They might spin off the autonomous program into another company to raise fund, prior to IPO, perhaps, just a thought. I think that's a better option financially.

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

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post #24

So how is Uber's runway looking now? This article [1] from August suggests they had just over three years of runway at the end of June ($6.6b burning at about $2b/yr). So this extends the runway by only six months? Are they going to survive long enough to see autonomous drivers? How will this deal affect future funding? [1] https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/23/uber-is-still-burning-cas...

They might spin off the autonomous program into another company to raise fund, prior to IPO, perhaps, just a thought. I think that's a better option financially.

If the autonomous stuff works (HUGE if) it would completely change the core business. I can't see why they'd spin it off. Why sell your future unless you think it won't work out.

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

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Can anyone explain why $1B is being invested at a $70B valuation, while existing share holdings are being purchased at a lower/to be determined valuation?

The $1B that is being invested at the $70B valuation is direct from the company and Softbank will be purchasing preferred shares like any other VC. These preferred shares have extra rights, things like liquidation preference, board seats, voting rights, etc. What specifically they will receive is unknown, but at the very least they will have a 1x liquidation preference on that $1B invested, which means if the company…

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I am wondering if its ever possible to board to later approve that those newly bought "common" stocks get converted to "preferred" i.e., have the same liquidation preference?

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

#28
Investors have lost the plot.

Uber is nothing more than a taxi company using VC capital to undercut competitors. There are no self driving cars. That’s just a story to get money and make the brand bigger than its product. Come back to reality.

There is no futuristic mars colony with Uber robots driving everyone around. It’s just a bunch of taxi drivers with dispatch replaced by an app.

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might spin off the autonomous program into another company to raise fund, prior to IPO, perhaps, just a thought. I think that's a better option financially.

If the autonomous stuff works (HUGE if) it would completely change the core business. I can't see why they'd spin it off. Why sell your future unless you think it won't work out.

I am not really good at this stuff, but I see separating focus. Call it UberAuto, Uber would become UberAuto's parent company. UberAuto could receive new VC rounds and a new CEO appointed, focus on the autonomous development, while the parent company focuses on its core business and get ready for IPO.

Waymo is a spinoff from Google (and Alphabet is Google's parent company). Ebay, HP all have its own spinoffs.

Edit: In fact the new Uber CEO Khosrowshahi guided Expedia spinoff. See [3]. So a spinoff isn't unlikely. The spin-off could be just a research entity, but license to parent company later.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/technology/google-parent-...

[2]: https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/companies-seeing-the...

[3]: https://qz.com/1063313/new-uber-ceo-expedias-dara-khosrowsha...

Re: Uber confirms SoftBank has agreed to invest

#30

Investors have lost the plot. Uber is nothing more than a taxi company using VC capital to undercut competitors. There are no self driving cars. That’s just a story to get money and make the brand bigger than its product. Come back to reality. There is no futuristic mars colony with Uber robots driving everyone around. It’s just a bunch of taxi drivers with dispatch replaced by an app.

Fools and their money are soon parted.

But then again, the market can stay irrational longer than any individual can stay solvent.

Ah, screw it; things just happen, what the hell.

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