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Alibaba hits nearly $18B in ‘Singles Day’ orders in 12 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A gallon of baijiu is a life time supply of baijiu, dependent on intake rates.

Less than 4 liters of any alcoholic drink, including pure 100% alcohol, sounds like a month-long supply at the very best.

> pure 100% alcohol

= free auto-gas supplement.

Or home heating.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once China reverses its mercantilist policy that % will plummet and the US will suffer very high levels of inflation. That will probably happen once corruption in China becomes manageable, the Chinese stop moving their assets offshore and the US has no industrial technological advantage any more (i.e. once China can make equivalently good airplanes and microprocessors).

You mean the Chinese government will stop protecting their currency and hurt their export? That isn't likely to happen soon even though other governments want them to float freely rather than in a price band. China doesn't hold enough USD to hurt the US economy without hurting themselves even more seeing as the bonds are non-callable by the buyer.

>You mean the Chinese government will stop protecting their currency and hurt their export?

Right. Exactly like the US does right now.

>China doesn't hold enough USD to hurt the US economy

It isn't about who holds the little green bits of paper. It's about who can turn off the wealth spigot.

The US would experience a huge bout of inflation right now if China decided to just float, it's just that China would probably suffer too. Once the US has nothing China wants (soon) they will have no reason to keep giving us a bargain on their imports.

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Man, western ppl are missing out on not so cheap but high quality clothes in TaoBao. My wife wears these winter jackets so elegant ppl in usa compliment her on the quality and style. All made in china. Thing is you gotta know chinese to know what to look for in taobao.

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A friend of mine from China was showing me an article in Chinese about the Huawei website (huge site like Amazon + Apple + FedEx) . They have 300 sub stores/warehouses just in his city they are for stock piling popular items. A man ordered something from the Huawei website at midnight and he received the package 12 minutes later.

As per the legend.

Re: Alibaba hits nearly $18B in ‘Singles Day’ orders in 12 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the Chinese government will stop protecting their currency and hurt their export? That isn't likely to happen soon even though other governments want them to float freely rather than in a price band. China doesn't hold enough USD to hurt the US economy without hurting themselves even more seeing as the bonds are non-callable by the buyer.

>You mean the Chinese government will stop protecting their currency and hurt their export? Right. Exactly like the US does right now. >China doesn't hold enough USD to hurt the US economy It isn't about who holds the little green bits of paper. It's about who can turn off the wealth spigot. The US would experience a huge bout of inflation right now if China decided to just float, it's just that China would probably…

I've been reading this argument since at least 2003.

Re: Alibaba hits nearly $18B in ‘Singles Day’ orders in 12 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You mean the Chinese government will stop protecting their currency and hurt their export? Right. Exactly like the US does right now. >China doesn't hold enough USD to hurt the US economy It isn't about who holds the little green bits of paper. It's about who can turn off the wealth spigot. The US would experience a huge bout of inflation right now if China decided to just float, it's just that China would probably…

I've been reading this argument since at least 2003.

And? In 2003 they weren't even close to technological and industrial parity but even then it was fairly evident that they would be within Now they're not far off parity - maybe 5-7 years before they can manufacture anything the US can.

Trends that continue for a long time do not continue forever. That goes double for things that look like a free lunch.

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As a European that takes in a good bit of american business reporting (doesn't everyone?), I'm kind of amused and surprised at how China's rhymes. The common sense understanding of a consumer driven economy, the fantastical scale. I sort of imagine that to a caricature of an old americana businessman, this sale is a significant event. The quantity of the chinese market (even per capita, by the satisfyingly physical m…

> is a quality of its own^

> quote attributed to Stalin

Actually, that was comrade Hegel at the source of the idea, but the marxists did run a lot with it, mostly into the ground ...

https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Transformation+o...

"[...] a basic law of materialist dialectics, according to which a change in the quality of an object occurs when the accumulation of quantitative changes reaches a certain limit."

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Most of the comments here focus on the business aspects of US/China retailing. I'd like to remind techies here that Alibaba has become a tech powerhouse as they learned how to deal with ever increasing traffic. Their work on infrastructure has been phenomenal. It's not a joke to handle up to 45 million database transactions per second, or 256K payments per second. Few US companies could do it without breaking a sweat. Check out their work on JStorm, Flink, messaging queue, container, JVM, ML platform, and databases. Alas, tech innovations came from real and challenging business scenarios. It's like diamonds are forged by extreme heat and pressure. Now look at Silicon Valley, how many companies can claim tech achievement similar to that of Alibaba, except the same ol' Google, Facebook, and Amazon? I don't think it's due to lack of tech talent. Instead, it's due to lack of business scenarios at scale for most of the companies.

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According to Bloomberg they were processing over 1/4-million transactions per second. What are they doing that Bitcoin and Ethereum can't do? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-10/alibaba-s...

Not running transactions against a massively distributed blockchain using a proof of work system?

Hmm, So ultimately centralization is demonstrably better for transaction per section?

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According to Bloomberg they were processing over 1/4-million transactions per second. What are they doing that Bitcoin and Ethereum can't do? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-10/alibaba-s...

Um, not requiring a Proof of Work / Proof of Stake?

I guess the proof of stake is the credit card validation and the charges and fees are settled a day or two later?
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