Kremlin Cash Behind Yuri Milner’s Twitter and Facebook Investments • Hacker News Board

Re: Kremlin Cash Behind Yuri Milner’s Twitter and Facebook Investments

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Post by smsm42 » Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 7:19 PM UTC

lukasm wrote: post #200

smsm42 wrote: post #196

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Thus, it is impossible to disprove that the company is really controlled by lizardoids from planet Nibiru, since if it would be, they certainly wouldn't tell you about it, so any behavior can be interpreted as caused by lizardoids, while no behavior can be interpreted as refuting this.

That is only true if these are the only variables. If you know that lizardoids invested in the company and CEO would told you to transport uranium to Nibiru, because think-of-the-children you are more likely to question the intent.

But if they said to transfer uranium to Minnesota instead, maybe it's still lizardoids and they just have space ship landed in Minnesota. And if they said to ship cornflakes and not uranium, maybe they know how to make nukes from cornflakes. With enough imagination, it is not possible to refute literally anything. Any action can be proof of any connection, if you're willing to accept conjecture and "well, it doesn't prove X is false therefore X is true".

Re: Kremlin Cash Behind Yuri Milner’s Twitter and Facebook Investments

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Post by smsm42 » Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 7:35 PM UTC

Synaesthesia wrote: post #199

smsm42 wrote: post #194

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> against the wishes of that country You mean wishes of Asad? Given that Syria hasn't been a democracy since... well, I don't know, bronze age? "wishes of that country" is kinda nebulous term, especially right in the middle of a civil war.

Assad is not a great guy, I'm not denying that. He's a tyrant. Compared to ISIS and the extremist terrorist forces he's up against, which Russia is helping him defeat, he's not so bad. One cannot discount the government of a country just so easily. There is such a thing as international law and the US is violating it by being in Syria, which is still a sovereign state, while Russia is not. Incidentally the US has sup…

A guy who didn't pick after his dog on your lawn is "not a great guy". Asad is a brutal dictator who already caused death of thousands of people and will cause many more. He's way beyond "not a great guy". He's yes "so bad".

> One cannot discount the government of a country just so easily.

It's not "so" easily. It's a brutal strongman that uses WMD against people he's supposedly representing. It's not just some disagreement on taxes or policies. It's routinely using the military against people. And if you think ISIS is the only organization that opposes Asad, you are woefully misinformed - opposition to Asad is much wider and ISIS just used the chaos to get a stronghold, they did not initiate the civil war. And of course Asad has absolutely no problem with "extremist terrorist forces" - as long as they threaten not him but say US or Israel.

> Incidentally the US has supported far worse dictatorships

Not "far" worse, as it's not very easy to go far worse than Asad (maybe Idi Amin who was rumored to literally eat people? Or Papa Doc Duvalier, who at one time ordered to have all black dogs in a country killed because he thought his fugitive opponent turned himself into one?). But yes, it did. But doing a bad thing once is not a reason to do it ten times more.

Re: Kremlin Cash Behind Yuri Milner’s Twitter and Facebook Investments

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Post by jgome » Thu, Nov 09, 2017, 2:33 AM UTC

oxide wrote: post #172

jgome wrote: post #131

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It is normal (be it "lefty" democratic, or republican US presidents) for the US government to use its power to destroy other countries and steal its resources... And yet here you are discussing "cynicism and [...] deliberate single mindedness". As a lefty, you fail to put things in perspective... But I guess it's just not convenient, sometimes, is it?

Hey turfer, take another English course.

I forgot, the one and only language spoken in the whole world is english... And everyone should know it, even the small details.

As a language, it's a disaster. I better worry about more important things, and not waste more time with it.

Re: Kremlin Cash Behind Yuri Milner’s Twitter and Facebook Investments

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Post by psimpsonul » Sat, Nov 11, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

Synaesthesia wrote: post #179

AzzieElbab wrote: post #178

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Oh cmon

It’s true, the oligarchs were all created by the rapid privatization of Russian state assets which were sold incredibly cheaply. US advisors played a big role in this. See eg https://www.thenation.com/article/harvard-boys-do-russia/ I’m not surprised that US politicians are still involved with the oligarchs, and that seems to be on both sides of the political spectrum.

What if I told you that Yuri Milner was behind that?