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Cursive Handwriting and Other Education Myths (2016)

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Just yesterday the Illinois state senate overrode the governor's veto in order to mandate that all schools teach cursive before fifth grade. Major arguments I heard included "reading notes from grandma" and "preventing identity theft" (via cursive signatures). http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-cursive-required-illinois-2... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-illinoi...

>"preventing identity theft" (via cursive signatures) lol. as if banks (and other institutions likely to get hit by fraud) do signature checks.

What about teaching it (EDIT: making a signature) as an art form, for the soul purpose of creating something unique? (EDIT: not necessarily cursive)

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Seems to ignore the fact that picking up and putting down the writing point is actually harder for small children than just sliding the writing implement along the paper. Also consider the popularity of "Swype"-style keyboards, since continuous sliding a finger across a surface is, for many, easier than discrete screen presses. Sources: personal experience and anecdotes from teachers of 4-6 yr olds (an age range not…

I can remember the pain and hand fatigue that cursive writing gave me for around 5-6 years in school until I said fuck it, I’ll write letters convenient way, not “right way”. Teachers could do nothing with it, and I simply wrote letters as you can see in books, but with few shortcuts. All readers say it reads more clear on average than, well, average cursive. We wrote with “fountain” pens back then, if it makes any d…

> I can remember the pain and hand fatigue that cursive writing gave me

I remember the pain too, having written a lot, and in cursive, in school; I'm not saying it's easier to write a lot, just that I've heard and anecdotally observed that very young kids have motor skills that seem better suited to the continuous movement of joined-up letters.

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The funny thing is that the grey quotes in the article look very close to Cursive Italic, which is faster than American Cursive(what we all know as regular cursive) and Manuscript + it is just as easy to read as Manuscript(print). If we actually cared about efficiency and effectiveness in handwriting we would have switched to this a long time ago.

I do calligraphy as a hobby. I'm going to time myself but I'm already 100% certain I can write much faster with Cursive Italic in spite of the fact that I spend just as much time writing printed characters.

American Cursive looks very nice when done properly. However, it requires near-perfect execution to be legible.

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There is probably some value in being able to read the original founding documents of your government. In the United States those are written in cursive.

Reading and writing are two different skills. I can read a variety of different calligraphy styles, for example, but would be hard-pressed to reproduce them well.

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Can an American give an example image showing a child's cursive handwriting, as is it taught there?

The picture at the top of the article is only about 50% like the handwriting I was taught in the UK.

I was taught something like this [1] (11 year old, England) except without the curly bits before the first letter of each word.

[1] http://stanthonys.herts.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/hw...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do. I have been asked in the past to write as in my recorded sample or record a new one.

>I have been asked in the past to write as in my recorded sample if you're a fraudster, this can be easily circumvented by going to a new financial institution? >record a new one wait, what's the point asking for a signature sample when you can always record a new one?

presumably the process for recording a new sample involves verifying your identity (e.g. going in person and providing a government id with photograph).

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Oh man how I _HATED_ cursive writing. I was so bad at it, my Dad had to give me special lessons and penalties, which was an awful experience.

You know how much cursive I've written in the last 30 years? Zero. ZERO.

We will not be teaching our kids this, and I will encourage them not to learn it (unless they want to, for some odd reason).

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There is probably some value in being able to read the original founding documents of your government. In the United States those are written in cursive.

Why? I mean, if anyone really wants to read the originals, they can learn cursive then. But why aren't transcripts enough for the average person?

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Can an American give an example image showing a child's cursive handwriting, as is it taught there? The picture at the top of the article is only about 50% like the handwriting I was taught in the UK. I was taught something like this [1] (11 year old, England) except without the curly bits before the first letter of each word. [1] http://stanthonys.herts.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/hw...

Are you asking me to Google That For You? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=american+children+cursive
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