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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by microcolonel »

Microsoft has also given up, it seems. They recently removed MS Paint, and suggested that Paint3D would be its replacement. Paint3D can not be removed (it will reinstall itself), and inserts a firewall rule(!) presumably to help call home.

Even the "Enterprise" editions of Windows 10 don't respect settings correctly, and happily engage in high-risk always-on data collection at the expense of whoever owns the internet connection. They've even backported this misfeature to Windows 7 as an automatic update, as far as I'm told.

And I might be saying that this was all okay in the long run, if the quality of Windows had actually improved as a result of this wholesale mandatory data collection, but to my eyes, it has gotten worse if anything.

All that being said, I'd agree that Microsoft is (if you can stomach all of this) at least trying to maintain a desktop operating system. "macOS" has completely lost its way. When a new release comes out, you don't get fewer bugs, you just get different bugs because they apparently keep rewriting everything.

Frankly, after having used every version of both macOS and Windows in the last 15 years, some extensively in a professional setting, I'm glad I get to use Linux at home (and 95% of the time at work). If things are broken, it's at least usually because they never worked to begin with, which is a much more hopeful position, especially being the sort of developer who doesn't mind digging in a bit to fix something or at least write an excellent bug report.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by api_or_ipa »

Nothing more than bitching, moaning, complaining and fanboying about ecosystems. Sure, there are issues in the mac ecosystem that frustrate me but the mac ecosystem, on the whole, is an excellent system that works great for most people. Plus, there are a large number of 3rd party solutions to tailor the experience to your needs.

Since we're allowing fanboying, Windows is still by far the biggest pile of shit to work on and lags way behind Linux or Mac in developer experience. To me the linux subsystem is just another attempt to save a sinking ship. The author would be way better off getting comfortable in hisfavourite flavour of linux and build the environment exactly as he'd like.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by melvinmt »

rayiner wrote: post #10

What is there left to do on the desktop? Where recent Apple machines shine is fitting into a really good ecosystem. I can receive a text on my Mac, iPhone, iPad, or Watch. I can pull out my Mac and it instantly connects to the LTE on my iPad. It’s seamless and it works with no configuration. Windows is still not there yet.

Been using mac for 8 years, didn't know this was possible. Would love to sync text and LTE, how do you set this up?

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by domenukk »

rayiner wrote: post #10

What is there left to do on the desktop? Where recent Apple machines shine is fitting into a really good ecosystem. I can receive a text on my Mac, iPhone, iPad, or Watch. I can pull out my Mac and it instantly connects to the LTE on my iPad. It’s seamless and it works with no configuration. Windows is still not there yet.

This works perfectly fine on Windows for both windows phone and Android. I can reply Android texts, whatsapps and even third party apps from a windows desktop.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by lz400 »

I've recently switched from an old Mac Pro to a Lenovo x1 carbon (QHD, 16gb RAM, 512 SSD, i7). It was half the price of the equivalent current Mac Pro, with more ports and better battery life, no gimmicky touch bar BS and a much better keyboard imho (although the trackpad is worse).

Software wise, I use Windows 10 with the linux subsystem + a Linux VM (Elementary OS). I must confess both Windows and Linux are still a bit behind in hidpi support and the linux subsystem is not as well integrated as a MacOS console but I'm in general quite happy and while Apple designs these overpriced underpowered laptops with horrible features I can't really go back, even though the software stack might still be a little bit better for developers.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by woudsma »

(opinionated)

why i stay with apple (so far), all my macbooks lasted 4-6+ years so far - with pretty much 0% performance loss, UNIX(!!), and stuff just works. also i don't want to deal with anti-virus software, an ugly command line interface, and terrible UI design in general.

got my macbook screen + motherboard replaced for free, i didn't bring a receipt, 2.5yrs after i got it. done in 4 days. that's pretty awesome customer service IMO.

not that enthusiastic about the latest MBP's though, let us have some ports and physical escape key pls

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by leggomylibro »

microcolonel wrote: post #11

Microsoft has also given up, it seems. They recently removed MS Paint, and suggested that Paint3D would be its replacement. Paint3D can not be removed (it will reinstall itself), and inserts a firewall rule(!) presumably to help call home. Even the "Enterprise" editions of Windows 10 don't respect settings correctly, and happily engage in high-risk always-on data collection at the expense of whoever owns the internet…

Seriously. Win7 had a lot of the 'simple stuff just works' without the home-phoning, but how long d'you think a Windows 7 machine will be able to stay connected to the internet?

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by owenwil »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #4

Got a Macbook Pro in 2016. As of today, the E, R, and T keys have all stopped working. Apple wants $500 for a logic board replacement. It was fine when it was just the R key. Sort of. I set up bash scripts to copy-paste "r" to my clipboard, and just pressed command-V instead of "r". But then the T key went out.

Hooo boy, I've had three replacements and now they insist it's my fault despite it being <1 year.
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