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I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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I don't want to sound mean, but... he has a well-thumbed copy of Kitchen Confidential and did this anyway? Because one of the things I remember most strongly from that are the stories about people who imagine fondly they'd like to own a restaurant, and it always ending in tears.

(Also I'm bemused as to why the opener suggests red tape was a problem.)

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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> We had started with $60,000; after six weeks, we were down to $3,000, and there was still so much to do. I don't think he did nearly enough research into how much it costs to start a restaurant.

Approximately how much would you say it costs? Could he have gotten a small business loan?

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Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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Running a restaurant is hard and unsurprisingly its even harder if you never have run one before. Staffing, food cost, vender management and health code malarky: these are some of the first things that make or break a restaurant. Then maybe location. Quality of food clearly doesn't make the list, at least not disconnected from price as Dominos, McDonalds and Starbucks succeed with high probability. Sad to see a vanit…

Gordon Ramsay is one of the most experienced and successful restaurateurs ever, and has had numerous failures along the way.

Before he became TV famous, he worked in his restaurant every day until 1 AM, and back to it 6 hours later...every day, for many years. People vastly underestimate the time and dedication needed to run a restaurant. If you aren't built for it like Ramsay, you will regret it.

For a lot of owners, it's a really good way to earn not a lot of money for a massive amount of work.

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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This is really something everyone who opens a restaurant should be prepared for. An overwhelming majority of restaurants go out of business within a few years. It's a really difficult profession to be a part of, and if you want to be successful you've got to make some serious sacrifices--even then that might not be enough.

There was a Wall Street Journal article a few weeks ago that said banks were being far too lenient about giving out loans to restaurants and pumping money into an essentially dying, unforgiving market. I actually thought the WSJ was a little hard on the banks, since restaurants are so notoriously hard, but I wonder if this is more of systemic issue.

I really don't think banks give loans to restaurants. I'm gonna need to see a citation here.

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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post #4

Running a restaurant is hard and unsurprisingly its even harder if you never have run one before. Staffing, food cost, vender management and health code malarky: these are some of the first things that make or break a restaurant. Then maybe location. Quality of food clearly doesn't make the list, at least not disconnected from price as Dominos, McDonalds and Starbucks succeed with high probability. Sad to see a vanit…

Gordon Ramsay is one of the most experienced and successful restaurateurs ever, and has had numerous failures along the way. Before he became TV famous, he worked in his restaurant every day until 1 AM, and back to it 6 hours later...every day, for many years. People vastly underestimate the time and dedication needed to run a restaurant. If you aren't built for it like Ramsay, you will regret it. For a lot of owners…

Right and with that much work you know how to fix a menu so your food cost is managed. You know how many servers you probably need for that day of the week and how likely they are to disappear. You know how your staff will steal your booze, pocket the tips, or kill you clientele with a food allergy. You know how many people will complain and you will have to comp their bill. You know you should stock pile supplies because the vendor will run out. For an industry that is terribly easy to get into as a bus boy/server, prep cook, its amazing to me that more people don't just start there. Or maybe they do, but they don't write hand wringing articles about how they failed.(hopefully because they'd didn't and are too busy working). I once heard a story about an area for wine production in USA that you could buy for reasonable amount of money. Every few years, a 50 year old man would come and buy it, and start to work it. After 10 years about the time he might be getting the hang of what it all entailed he would be tired and sell it to the next 50 year old. The locals just watched the same story play out over and over again...

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a Wall Street Journal article a few weeks ago that said banks were being far too lenient about giving out loans to restaurants and pumping money into an essentially dying, unforgiving market. I actually thought the WSJ was a little hard on the banks, since restaurants are so notoriously hard, but I wonder if this is more of systemic issue.

I really don't think banks give loans to restaurants. I'm gonna need to see a citation here.

huh? https://www.fundera.com/business-loans/guides/restaurant-loa...

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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post #11

I don't want to sound mean, but... he has a well-thumbed copy of Kitchen Confidential and did this anyway? Because one of the things I remember most strongly from that are the stories about people who imagine fondly they'd like to own a restaurant, and it always ending in tears. (Also I'm bemused as to why the opener suggests red tape was a problem.)

Seems like he kinda missed the point.

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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post #14
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a Wall Street Journal article a few weeks ago that said banks were being far too lenient about giving out loans to restaurants and pumping money into an essentially dying, unforgiving market. I actually thought the WSJ was a little hard on the banks, since restaurants are so notoriously hard, but I wonder if this is more of systemic issue.

I really don't think banks give loans to restaurants. I'm gonna need to see a citation here.

Fair request and it was actually the New York Times so my mistake:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/business/too-many-restaur...

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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The first big red flag for me (besides that the whole thing pretty obviously started as a mid life crisis) was how little time it sounds like he spent working at his friend's bar in the three months he needed to put in to qualify for the liquor license. How could he not take that seriously as an opportunity to learn about the industry? I would bet money that the answer is he was afraid to learn that running a restaurant is actual work, not an episode of chef's table.

His lack of preparation is mind boggling, but completely deliberate: the less he knew, the more room there was for fantasy. Beware working with people like this, who want to skip straight to the end.

Re: I poured my blood, sweat and life savings into my restaurant. It ruined my life.

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I've known two chefs who've gone on to start their own restaurants over the years, and the one thing they have in common (other than smoking) is they are REALLY highly strung. I don't just mean a little anxious/fidgety - they quite literally don't seem to be able to sit still even for a few seconds. Even little actions like pulling out a chair to sit down happens as fast as they're physically able to do it. Noisiest people I've ever known!

Neither of them have actually worked as a chef in years, and one of them hasn't set foot behind the counter at a restaurant since 2004. I can't even imagine the constant time pressure chefs, and undoubtedly restaurant owners must feel for this type of behavior to manifest and basically never go away.

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