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Re: SpaceX rocket engine explodes during test at Texas facility

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I don't think you can be certain it's a newer Merlin engine OR that it will delay Block 5. They do acceptance testing of all their engines, even the current iterations. They've launched literally hundreds of these engines, with multiple tests per engine (and, as an aside, a design for Falcon 9 that is able to survive an engine failure). They test multiple engines per week, and have the capacity for multiple times tha…

Engine failed during qualification testing, not acceptance testing - so it's a new design. If you don't occasionally blow an engine up on the stand you are either not testing hard enough or not pushing the limits hard enough.

Oh of course. Test to failure, why didn't that occur to me with respect rocket engines? Thanks for the insight.

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>#2- The BFR. All over the news lately, going to be a humongous rocket that does New York to Sydney in under an hour, or take humans to the Moon or Mars. Does BFR happen to stand for "big fucking rocket"?

Yes. This is from the same CEO who wanted to name his first 3 models of car "S, E, and X" (the 3 was going to be the model E, but renamed due to ford's trademark).

Well, I never! How crude! I mean just poo-poo on this sort of thing and anybody amused by it!

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post #15

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>#2- The BFR. All over the news lately, going to be a humongous rocket that does New York to Sydney in under an hour, or take humans to the Moon or Mars. Does BFR happen to stand for "big fucking rocket"?

Yes. This is from the same CEO who wanted to name his first 3 models of car "S, E, and X" (the 3 was going to be the model E, but renamed due to ford's trademark).

And the one after that will be Y.

I always tell people that BFR stands for "Big Rocket." It's more fun to let them fill in the blank.

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post #15

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>#2- The BFR. All over the news lately, going to be a humongous rocket that does New York to Sydney in under an hour, or take humans to the Moon or Mars. Does BFR happen to stand for "big fucking rocket"?

Yes. This is from the same CEO who wanted to name his first 3 models of car "S, E, and X" (the 3 was going to be the model E, but renamed due to ford's trademark).

Don't forget the Model Y. (Basically a crossover version of the Model 3. )

Ref: https://electrek.co/guides/tesla-model-y/

Re: SpaceX rocket engine explodes during test at Texas facility

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This sort of thing does happen in the industry and better during testing than half way up. but I worry that there will now be an increase in the amount of FUD being pushed in the news. It already seems like the amount of muck being thrown at ANYTHING elon musk related has increased over the last few months.

your feelings appear to be right, there was even a discussion about that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15600878

Re: SpaceX rocket engine explodes during test at Texas facility

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For those who don't obsessively follow SpaceX: SpaceX is working on three projects right now. #1- Falcon Heavy, strapping three Falcon 9s together to make a super awesome rocket. #2- The BFR. All over the news lately, going to be a humongous rocket that does New York to Sydney in under an hour, or take humans to the Moon or Mars. And #3, they are working on what's being called "Block 5", the supposedly final upgrade…

I don't think you can be certain it's a newer Merlin engine OR that it will delay Block 5. They do acceptance testing of all their engines, even the current iterations. They've launched literally hundreds of these engines, with multiple tests per engine (and, as an aside, a design for Falcon 9 that is able to survive an engine failure). They test multiple engines per week, and have the capacity for multiple times tha…

The article has been updated. It was a Block 5 engine, and SpaceX will suspend testing of Block 5 engines until the accident investigation is complete.

Re: SpaceX rocket engine explodes during test at Texas facility

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you can be certain it's a newer Merlin engine OR that it will delay Block 5. They do acceptance testing of all their engines, even the current iterations. They've launched literally hundreds of these engines, with multiple tests per engine (and, as an aside, a design for Falcon 9 that is able to survive an engine failure). They test multiple engines per week, and have the capacity for multiple times tha…

Engine failed during qualification testing, not acceptance testing - so it's a new design. If you don't occasionally blow an engine up on the stand you are either not testing hard enough or not pushing the limits hard enough.

Move fast and blow shit up (literally)?

Re: SpaceX rocket engine explodes during test at Texas facility

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you can be certain it's a newer Merlin engine OR that it will delay Block 5. They do acceptance testing of all their engines, even the current iterations. They've launched literally hundreds of these engines, with multiple tests per engine (and, as an aside, a design for Falcon 9 that is able to survive an engine failure). They test multiple engines per week, and have the capacity for multiple times tha…

Engine failed during qualification testing, not acceptance testing - so it's a new design. If you don't occasionally blow an engine up on the stand you are either not testing hard enough or not pushing the limits hard enough.

What's interesting is that updated info indicates it happened before the engine (which was a block 5 engine, as you say) was ignited, when they do a "LOx drop" test, basically running liquid oxygen through it to test for any leaks: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/an-experimental-spac...

It may mean they had a simple FOD (foreign object debris) or contamination issue, not a design problem. Powerful oxidizers like liquid oxygen can make contact explosives out of all kinds of organic materials.

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