sigh I just spend an hour trying to figure out why my emscripten code no longer works. Browsing hacker-news and seeing this post about Firefox. Remembering my Firefox developer edition earlier today mentioned some update on start (FF 58.01b now). And yeah, for some reason it broke some emscripten code (edit: seems now it rather broke WebGL canvas).
Firefox Quantum
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Re: Firefox Quantum
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used nightly regularly, then stopped. With quantum I used it again. It has shown strong improvements, massive ones, I spent two weeks in nightly. But at point it has perf issues that I don't have with chrome. I'll stay on it for a while to see if it goes away.
I've found that nightly has some issues with video acceleration (my laptop doesn't like playing anything over 1080p resolution), FF release doesn't seem to have that.
I wouldn't rant if it was for intensive usage. But even twitter or the main UI can slow down.
Re: Firefox Quantum
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used nightly regularly, then stopped. With quantum I used it again. It has shown strong improvements, massive ones, I spent two weeks in nightly. But at point it has perf issues that I don't have with chrome. I'll stay on it for a while to see if it goes away.
> But at point it has perf issues that I don't have with chrome. Would you be willing to either file a bug report (and cc "bzbarsky") or just describe steps to reproduce here?
I'd be happy, but beside a context and a list of tabs I have no precise info to give. Would it still be useful ?
Re: Firefox Quantum
#114Is this the one that makes you launch Chrome for Hangouts/GoToMeeting/etc? Because why won't you then use Chrome in the first place?
This is a problem with Google only making things work with Chrome. http://www.otsukare.info/2014/10/28/google-webcompatibility-...
Re: Firefox Quantum
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Re: vertical space Oh you sweet sweet summer child (i kid) Vertical tabs are the way to go. I use Tree Style Tabs ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... ) and there is also Tab center, but the experiment has ended ( https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center/ ). You gain a whole tab height in space and only lose a constant amount of horizontal space. I manage a world where you can…
But I also need the horizontal space! I very often tile windows side by side to allow developing while seeing the results, or while reading documentation. Maybe I'm just picky. I don't know. Chrome does the job pretty well though, even with the bookmarks bar turned on. A vertical tabs bar would make it impossible to use many sites, like GitHub.
> A vertical tabs bar would make it impossible to use many sites, like GitHub.
I use vertical tabs exclusively (for many, many years), and GitHub constantly. No problems whatsoever.
Re: Firefox Quantum
#116I'm not looking forward to this, I realize they've made speed improvements, but the entire reason I'm on FF at all is Tab Groups, which seems to be dead. I know it's not heavily used, but it's going to be painful for me to get used to browsing without it. I'm aware that there's a proposal to add an API to make it possible under the new system, but last time I checked the ticket, recent activity was someone from the t…
Painful? Nah. Use a combination of windows and tabs to achieve the same grouping. Use the awesome bar to search and switch between tabs, if you need the search functionality. Stop having 100+ tabs open, that's what bookmarks are for. I'm sorry to say that your usage pattern is extremely non-standard and based on the whims of an unpaid extension developer. So you can learn the intended usage pattern for the browser, d…
I'm not at the whims of an add-on developer, I'm at the whims of Mozilla. The new extension API doesn't currently have the control required to make Tab Groups, if it did I would port it myself.
I won't go in to my usage specifically but windows tabs and bookmarks doesn't work nearly as well as tab groups for me personally. That's how I did it for years before switching to Firefox, and its painful for my workflow.
I used Chrome(ium) for years before tab groups got me to switch to FF, if you take away tab groups, I'd rather just go back to it, if for no other reason that principle. Mozilla won me over by having the more flexible browser, that flexibility is going away, I have no loyalty to them beyond that, honestly.
Re: Firefox Quantum
#117I'm not looking forward to this, I realize they've made speed improvements, but the entire reason I'm on FF at all is Tab Groups, which seems to be dead. I know it's not heavily used, but it's going to be painful for me to get used to browsing without it. I'm aware that there's a proposal to add an API to make it possible under the new system, but last time I checked the ticket, recent activity was someone from the t…
> then just switch back to Chrome. I understand your want for tab groups, but what does switching to chrome matter? You cant do tab groups in chrome either. What does chrome have that ff57 doesnt?
I used Chrome(ium) for years before tab groups got me to switch to FF, if you take away tab groups, I'd rather just go back to it, if for no other reason that principle. Mozilla won me over by having the more flexible browser, that flexibility is going away, I have no loyalty to them beyond that, honestly.
May not make much sense but that's how I feel.
Re: Firefox Quantum
#118Post about why I'm not switching to Firefox for those who care to read it.
https://davityle.github.io/post/why-im-not-switching-to-fire...
tldr; the devtools are so slow and buggy they are unusable
Re: Firefox Quantum
#119I switched to Beta 3 weeks ago just to run version 57 and I couldn't be happier on my Windows 10 machine. Firefox starts much faster, is more responsive and I haven't seen a single crash. However, on my Mac, I really don't like the default black chrome. It just looks as out of place as Firefox always did on the Mac, which is just sad :-( And, I miss Self-Destructing Cookies (SDC). Cookie-AutoDelete (CAD) is fine, but…
The compact light theme looks native enough for me (at least it's so minimal that there's little to offend there ;)
Thank you so much! I tried it just now and that's what I'm looking for. Why isn't this the default on Mac? That black bar looks so out of place :-(
Re: Firefox Quantum
#120Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…
What is Win + C + H + R? Is that just Win + R?
It's for searching by app name. Chrome will show up as the best match