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Re: Firefox Quantum

#91

Post by gkya »

skrebbel wrote: post #3

I'm very impressed by Firefox 57 (have been on the beta for a while now). I never used Firefox really, but Quantum really made me move over. I still do my dev in Opera simply because I'm used to the dev tools, but if you haven't checked out Firefox Quantum yet, I really urge you to. It's just faster.

Updated my develper edition FF today, and the first 58 beta came along! I'm impressed it consumes about 300MB of memory only. It's not that much more than when my Emacs has been running for some weeks.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#92

Post by nachtigall »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs

How can you scroll through tabs? What do you mean by this?

Re: Firefox Quantum

#93

Post by gyaru »

nachtigall wrote: post #92
toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs How can you scroll through tabs? What do you mean by this?

Scrolling the mousewheel while hovering the mouse over the tab bar to switch between tabs I guess?

Re: Firefox Quantum

#94

Post by bzbarsky »

thom_nic wrote: post #85
masklinn wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. This is what I get on OSX, latest Chrome v FDE Compact: https://i.imgur.com/TA62OAN.png

Can you provide a link to that Firefox theme? I searched "FDE Compact" in mozilla themes and couldn't find what you appear to be using.

FDE is presumably Firefox Developer Edition. What you get by downloading from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

"Compact" is the built-in compact styling. Right-click (or otherwise context-click) on the toolbar, select "Customize.." and near the bottom there is a "Density" selector that you can set to "Compact". Note that this is somewhat independent of the color scheme used.

I'm pretty sure that the "Compact" layout is available in beta 57 as well, not just developer edition. It's not in release 56, though; it was added for 57.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#95

Post by justusthane »

nachtigall wrote: post #92
toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs How can you scroll through tabs? What do you mean by this?

In Chrome, the more tabs you open, the smaller they get (infinitely). They all remain on the screen. Once they get tiny enough, you can no longer tell what any given tab is.

In FF, after a certain point the tabs stop getting smaller, and instead you scroll through them left to right, either using little arrow buttons on each side of the tab bar, or using your scroll wheel.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#96

Post by swsieber »

gyaru wrote: post #93
nachtigall wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs How can you scroll through tabs? What do you mean by this?

Scrolling the mousewheel while hovering the mouse over the tab bar to switch between tabs I guess?

This. This was the feature I missed most when I moved away from Firefox.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#97

Post by jorvi »

jraph wrote: post #48
suprfnk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

I wondered the same thing a while ago and I would think this is to ease dragging the window with the mouse, which you may want to do easily when the window is not maximized. I'd really like Firefox on Linux to hide the window title bar (at least when maximized) and put the close / maximize / reduce buttons in the tab bar (or make it an option). The tab bar does already allow one to move the window, at least on KDE. T…

I still think Safari has the best implementation of any browser. Coincidentally this (maximizing) is also why bottom tabs is a much saner choice.

Normal window: https://i.imgur.com/WMfJMPC.png

Fullscreen: https://i.imgur.com/4iVPNzQ.png

Fullscreen with mouse at top of screen: https://i.imgur.com/hjC7Qgk.png

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by bzbarsky »

agumonkey wrote: post #15
zaarn wrote: post #4

I've been on Firefox Nightly for a while now and the difference to my FF56 vanilla install, it behaves much more like chrome and has become my daily driver. It can and has fully replaced Chrome (after the KeepassHTTP Connector was ported) in all matters (development, daily usage, hackernews).

I used nightly regularly, then stopped. With quantum I used it again. It has shown strong improvements, massive ones, I spent two weeks in nightly. But at point it has perf issues that I don't have with chrome. I'll stay on it for a while to see if it goes away.

> But at point it has perf issues that I don't have with chrome.

Would you be willing to either file a bug report (and cc "bzbarsky") or just describe steps to reproduce here?

Re: Firefox Quantum

#99

Post by eumenides1 »

marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

Re: vertical space Oh you sweet sweet summer child (i kid)

Vertical tabs are the way to go. I use Tree Style Tabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...) and there is also Tab center, but the experiment has ended (https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center/). You gain a whole tab height in space and only lose a constant amount of horizontal space.

I manage a world where you can read the title of your tab as you open more. Long gone is the world your curiosity is punished! And the in the tree case, you can track where your tabs came from!

Re: Firefox Quantum

#100

Post by Sean1708 »

SimeVidas wrote: post #60
yogthos wrote: post #42

I switched to the beta a couple of months ago, and it's just better than Chrome in every way. It's both faster and seems to have better memory usage.

The Nighty version will always be the best version ;)

> The Nighty version will always be the best version

Is that the version I put on just before I'm about to go to bed?

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