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Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by smichel17 »

suprfnk wrote: post #32
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

Amusingly, it seems neither you nor the grandparent comment have the interface set to `compact`.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by JoshMnem »

marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

I don't know if it will work in the new version, but you might be able to customize that with CSS:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/959205

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by solnyshok »

jvzr wrote: post #58
barrkel wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maximized browsers on wide screen monitors aren't very usable though, you end up with loads of pointless whitespace. The browser works best with a roughly square viewport on 1080p, or tending towards portrait on 1440p.

Good reason to use Firefox then, and its ability to have side tabs: https://imgur.com/a/L9plD

how did you get there? I installed treestyle on ff57 and top tabs are still there, in addition to vertical tabs

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by mwill »

I'm not looking forward to this, I realize they've made speed improvements, but the entire reason I'm on FF at all is Tab Groups, which seems to be dead. I know it's not heavily used, but it's going to be painful for me to get used to browsing without it.

I'm aware that there's a proposal to add an API to make it possible under the new system, but last time I checked the ticket, recent activity was someone from the team arguing that they'd already agreed it was a bad idea at a meeting, and it simply should not be added.

Honestly, I'm going to hang on a legacy version for as long as feasible and then just switch back to Chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by tkp »

jraph wrote: post #48
suprfnk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

I wondered the same thing a while ago and I would think this is to ease dragging the window with the mouse, which you may want to do easily when the window is not maximized. I'd really like Firefox on Linux to hide the window title bar (at least when maximized) and put the close / maximize / reduce buttons in the tab bar (or make it an option). The tab bar does already allow one to move the window, at least on KDE. T…

On debian with gnome, installing "maximus" package should hide title bar when maximized, works well here !

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by lsmod »

konart wrote: post #39
lsmod wrote: post #34

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Visit "about:preferences#search" and then uncheck every search engine under "One-Click Search Engines" list.

Okay, I'm stupid. For some reason I never even tried to uncked _all_ of them. Always been keeping Google, thinking it should be there for search in the url bar to work. Thanks!

Use DuckDuckGo as the default search engine, then you can use the "Bang"[0] notation to search using other services.

[0]https://duckduckgo.com/bang

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by sandGorgon »

I have been on Firefox Quantum for the past couple of months. Previously, when I used Chrome on my Dell XPS 13, core i7, 16gb Linux laptop, it used to hang and kill everything almost every week. And suck battery power like no tomorrow.

I've not rebooted my laptop in 2 months now and battery life is much much better.

Firefox Quantum is pure win.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by semperdark »

suprfnk wrote: post #32
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

You're not on the most compact density though. That circle around the back button only appears on the "Normal" and "Touch" densities.

Right click the menu bar, hit "Customize", and you can change the density to "Compact" under the density dropdown at the bottom.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by dr_zoidberg »

k__ wrote: post #29

So the "fast" nightly features are now in "regular" Firefox? I tried the nightly a few weeks ago and it would always forget my logins so it was essentially unusable. But the performance was much much better than with Chrome, so I would like to switch to Firefox :)

Firefox stable is v56, Beta v57, Nightly v58+. Next week, Stable will be v57, Beta v58 and Nightly v59.

v57 is a vast improvement over v56. Can't really say about Chrome because I haven't used it for a while. Main difference between v57 and v58 (performance-wise) is that WebRender (the "Quantum Renderer") didn't make it to v57, so you may want to wait for Beta v58.

I've been using the beta channel for years now, it was better than Stable for my browsing habits -- never had an issue.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

mwill wrote: post #64

I'm not looking forward to this, I realize they've made speed improvements, but the entire reason I'm on FF at all is Tab Groups, which seems to be dead. I know it's not heavily used, but it's going to be painful for me to get used to browsing without it. I'm aware that there's a proposal to add an API to make it possible under the new system, but last time I checked the ticket, recent activity was someone from the t…

Painful? Nah.

Use a combination of windows and tabs to achieve the same grouping. Use the awesome bar to search and switch between tabs, if you need the search functionality. Stop having 100+ tabs open, that's what bookmarks are for.

I'm sorry to say that your usage pattern is extremely non-standard and based on the whims of an unpaid extension developer. So you can learn the intended usage pattern for the browser, donate to the extension developer to make him port the extension or create a new extension yourself.

Jumping ship to a browser known for privacy issues seems like a really bad choice in this context.

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