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Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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Snap went from an incredible growth rate to a terrible growth rate because of a few simple (and sadly, quite common) strategic mistakes: 1. Underestimating the competition. Evan Spiegel clearly believed that Zuckerberg would never figure out how to beat him. He seems to have concluded that he was smarter, more creative, and more agile than Zuck. He profoundly miscalculated Zuck's relentlessness and is now losing badl…

You make it sound like Snap is a failure. It is worth $16b even after the affect of this earnings report. Facebook might have slowed their growth but they did make a huge company before they were slowed down.

But what is Snap really worth? They don't have assets and don't make a product but rather provide a service. A service is only as valuable as the number of people who use it. If Facebook continues to steal users away from Snap at the current rate, it will go they way of myspace before long.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

#92

Interesting factoid: Snap's current market cap ($18.1B) is lower than the price Facebook paid for WhatsApp ($19B). Snap is now "only" worth $4B more than Twitter. Does FB wait for the price to fall and take them out for $10B? Or grind them to dust to make an example of any startup foolhardy enough to forgo an acquisition offer?

The 2 founders own majority share of voting rights so facebook could not unless they agreed to it

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

#93

Snap went from an incredible growth rate to a terrible growth rate because of a few simple (and sadly, quite common) strategic mistakes: 1. Underestimating the competition. Evan Spiegel clearly believed that Zuckerberg would never figure out how to beat him. He seems to have concluded that he was smarter, more creative, and more agile than Zuck. He profoundly miscalculated Zuck's relentlessness and is now losing badl…

I am fascinated by Facebook. It is one of the most valuable companies in the world but if you took it away from me (and I would argue most people) tomorrow morning it would have almost no impact on our day to day lives. I actively use it and my girlfriend is obsessed with Instagram but if she didnt have it she would just go back to reading blogs on Tumblr or wherever. I would hate to live in a world without Google or…

WhatsApp is basically how me, my family and friends text, call or video chat.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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Snapchat needs to cut 60% of their workforce and then relentlessly focus on the iOS platform. Make a better spectacles and make it work only on iPhone. Let the Android app languish. This is the only way to long term success. This way they maintain exclusivity and also able to polish the app much better. For example the shit transferring experience on spectacles can be easily fixed if they optimise it for iPhone. And then the people who bought it may have actually liked it a bit.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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post #89

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You make it sound like Snap is a failure. It is worth $16b even after the affect of this earnings report. Facebook might have slowed their growth but they did make a huge company before they were slowed down.

But what is Snap really worth? They don't have assets and don't make a product but rather provide a service. A service is only as valuable as the number of people who use it. If Facebook continues to steal users away from Snap at the current rate, it will go they way of myspace before long.

Its a liquid stock with volume of $10m+/day. It seems like its worth what other people are willing to pay for it.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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> Hosting costs per DAU were $0.68 in Q3 2017 as compared to $0.64 in Q3 2016 and $0.61 in Q2 2017. Those are staggering figures to me and the trend is equally surprising. Maybe it's ignorance about hosting costs at such a scale, but i feel like cost/DAU should be declining over time, right? Is there something i'm missing here?

I'm not sure what "hosting costs" encompasses. But maybe this includes analytics costs? I assume they have far more ML and data collection infrastructure than before.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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I'm usually quite bullish on Snap. They seem to be doing some things right. From the outside, they seem overstaffed so it's good to see them reducing headcount. The fact that they're rebuilding the android app completely sounds like a bad idea that will be a bit of a timesink.

Nope. Snapchat is almost unusable on Android right now. Compared to instagram's stories, which loads up in an instant, Snapchat takes its own sweet time. They made the mistake of not paying enough attention to android in the beginning. And now they are trying to fix their mistake. It is a timesink; but they brought it upon themselves.

Ditto. They did a big upgrade a few months (years?) back and yet my Nexus 6P takes literally 10+ seconds before Snapchat responds to touches. It's horrendous

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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Snapchat needs to cut 60% of their workforce and then relentlessly focus on the iOS platform. Make a better spectacles and make it work only on iPhone. Let the Android app languish. This is the only way to long term success. This way they maintain exclusivity and also able to polish the app much better. For example the shit transferring experience on spectacles can be easily fixed if they optimise it for iPhone. And…

I hope you're not CEO of a publicly traded company

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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post #98

Snapchat needs to cut 60% of their workforce and then relentlessly focus on the iOS platform. Make a better spectacles and make it work only on iPhone. Let the Android app languish. This is the only way to long term success. This way they maintain exclusivity and also able to polish the app much better. For example the shit transferring experience on spectacles can be easily fixed if they optimise it for iPhone. And…

I hope you're not CEO of a publicly traded company

I'm not. I wish you would have actually taken the 2 minutes to explain your comment.

Re: Snap Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Results

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For those wondering, click on the chart and type 'e' to show after hours trading.

I use Yahoo finance and it displays after-hours stock price by default - https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/snap

I wonder if that is a setting you've switched on. When I go to that link it does not show after hours trading at all (it shows the price but not on the graph).
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