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Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Since installing iOS 11 some things that keep happening: 1) I turn off wifi only to notice internet stuff not working later, only to realize wifi has turned itself back on and connected to a random open network. 2) Almost any time I try to update any app(s), all apps freeze and won't function until I force restart my phone. 3) Random freezes and crashes all the time. 4) Much worse battery life on iPhone 7

(1) is a "feature": https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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I use the iPhone 6s. It was responsive, and battery would last at least half the day just fine. Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average. No minor upgrade fixed the problem, and apparently its a widespread one too. I am getting either the 8+ or the X, but I still think this is ridiculous at best.

>Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average What are you doing on your phone for that type of battery life? My phone (iPhone 6 Plus) has definitely been slower, but my battery life seems to be the same post upgrade. My phone is mostly idle throughout the day.

My 6 had it's battery life destroyed under standard usage.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#43

Another for the list - the new Podcasts app is terrible Edit: it's as if they tried to make the interface less efficient than before - it makes it much more difficult to find subscribed to podcasts you haven't listened to in a while

You've gotta go Pocket Casts. I took the leap and never looked back. It's miles better.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#44

> Hitting airplane mode now drops connected bluetooth devices Huh, doesn't happen to me

Wait, hasn't this always been the case? https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4pwv0l/i_finally_f...

That's what I thought, too. Many times under iOS 10 I would accidentally activate Airplane Mode, causing my AirPods to disconnect. This is not a new problem.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#45

I use the iPhone 6s. It was responsive, and battery would last at least half the day just fine. Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average. No minor upgrade fixed the problem, and apparently its a widespread one too. I am getting either the 8+ or the X, but I still think this is ridiculous at best.

>Right after the upgrade, batter would last for maybe 1 hour, tops, 30 minutes on average What are you doing on your phone for that type of battery life? My phone (iPhone 6 Plus) has definitely been slower, but my battery life seems to be the same post upgrade. My phone is mostly idle throughout the day.

On iPhone 7 Plus and iPad Pro battery was awful for me until I did a totally clean install and manually added back apps. Massive bore but fixed battery problems.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#47

I keep losing audio controls on my lock screen - not just navigation, even volume. Alarms have also started making no sound in the morning. I've just picked up the habit of restarting my phone before I go to bed at night. I am just shocked that so many existing features got broken in odd ways.

To be fair, I'm having a similar problem with my Android. The calendar background service seems to get stuck after a few days and stops showing notifications. I now have a daily reminder to convert all important appointments into Slack reminders because these actually work all the time.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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All valid points. Personally I find that iOS recently has really fallen behind, the hardware coming from Apple is still best in class, software is terrible. Notifications are abysmal, the UI in places feels pieced together, some of the UI just doesn't make sense, functionality is lacking in a number of areas. That doesn't even start on the bugs. To be honest the software and the software alone is pushing me more and…

I feel about the same... they're usually on top of chip design, power efficiency/etc, but quality of the software lately seems really questionable. They have been getting too aggressive with pointless stuff and losing sight of the basics.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#50
This nonsense again. This has been happening for years.

What happened was that Apple switched from Waterfall development to Agile. And what came from this was more regular and frequent releases at the cost of less polished releases. The way it works is Apple releases 11.0 with only P1 issues fixed, then from 11.1 -> 11.6 the focus is on P2 followed by P3 etc. Then a seperate team continues to work on 12.0.

11.1 was just released and 11.2 just went public beta and is another few weeks away. And none of the bugs you have listed are even all that serious.

And Apple had to release 11.0 as it was ready to coincide for iPhone X launch.

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