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I was really excited, until I read that the change they made is not to have no employee in the car at all. They moved the safety employee from the front to the back.
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>> The public will accept the perceived risks in driverless rides. This is what I am trying to highlight - what, specifically, are these risks that people need to be made aware of? So now, in addition to everything, there will come a day when a person is stranded some-place as the driverless car couldnt exactly find them, and the person had to call the call center to get help and guess what... calling the call center…
> So now we have driverless cars effectively classified as emergency ambulances That's quite a huge leap you made there. Care to back up and explain how a drunk person calling an uber magically turns the uber into an emergency ambulance?
Yet another way for driverless cars to save lives over the current situation.
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I'm not sure about "at a moment's notice", but yes they're supposed to have live operators standing by who can remotely direct the vehicles when needed. Since these are Level 4 vehicles, they should be able to safely pull over or stop when they are unsure what to do, so it isn't necessary to have a human continuously monitoring at all times.
What are level 4 vehicles?
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These aren't hard questions in the long term though. Non responsive passenger->follow protocol that emergency services prefers (or even legally requires). Fist fight->stop car, inform passengers that car won't transport them further. Rape->turn over recordings of vehicle interior to police. I suppose for the last one you have to take it as a given that they are making such recordings (probably on a rolling basis), bu…
I appreciate your calm response. So, then the idea for a unicorn is that we need a "fitbit for health monitoring while riding in a self driving car" as an app on the apple watch.
For emergencies where the passenger is more responsive, an "onstar"-like emergency button that calls emergency support staff would probably suffice.
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Is that said metro attached to rails -- or does it take you along "lines" where you have to get out at a designated station and then walk 2 miles to you house -- or does it pick you up and take you directly to the market. Your comment is bullshit comparison if youre talking about comparing freaking rails with vehicles whos routes are 100% random per rider.
> Person gets into the driverless car way too intoxicated and passes out/overdoses/dies in the car -- need physical help? > So now we have driverless cars effectively classified as emergency ambulances - so assuming the CARNOC is paying attention, they then drive the car to the hospital - and have to have a mechanism to contact said hospital > Imagine the healthcare implications where if someone hasa seizure, ODs, ca…
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> So now we have driverless cars effectively classified as emergency ambulances That's quite a huge leap you made there. Care to back up and explain how a drunk person calling an uber magically turns the uber into an emergency ambulance?
They manage to climb in, they OD/go into arrest, cant climb out. What then? So the uber now has to either get a person or take that car to a hospital - how do they know to do such? So is uber running a massive call center that watches every driverless ride and monitors the situation? Are they monitoring if people get into a fight in the car? That actually happened to me, where I took an uber pool, and the two other r…
How to monitor a potential rape? That thing probably has 15 cameras on the outside and might already be saving the footage for law enforcement review. And you actually removed one potential rapist from the scene by not having a driver - sadly this is a real (though thankfully infrequent) issue.
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Is that said metro attached to rails -- or does it take you along "lines" where you have to get out at a designated station and then walk 2 miles to you house -- or does it pick you up and take you directly to the market. Your comment is bullshit comparison if youre talking about comparing freaking rails with vehicles whos routes are 100% random per rider.
> Person gets into the driverless car way too intoxicated and passes out/overdoses/dies in the car -- need physical help? > So now we have driverless cars effectively classified as emergency ambulances - so assuming the CARNOC is paying attention, they then drive the car to the hospital - and have to have a mechanism to contact said hospital > Imagine the healthcare implications where if someone hasa seizure, ODs, ca…
But thank you for clarifying.
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These aren't "wacky what ifs." I don't know what things are like in the Valley, but here on the east coast something unexpected changes my commuting route a couple of times a month (multiply that by tens of thousands of drivers). "Do whatever the human would do, but more efficient" isn't an answer. These cars can't get on WTOP the day before and listen to the warning that the Pope is visiting and X, Y, Z streets will…
>"Do whatever the human would do, but more efficient" isn't an answer. These cars can't get on WTOP the day before and listen to the warning that the Pope is visiting and X, Y, Z streets will be blocked off. One can imagine various contingency scenarios, but the devil is in actually handling all the edge cases. Google maps already accounts for changes in traffic patterns and actively detects road closures, both based…
Sure, but Maps did try to send me the wrong way down a one way street last week, and through a closed tunnel last night. It's excellent technology, I don't mean to mock, but it's not perfect - situational info is going to have to override map info.
I think the question is less whether self-driving systems will ever be right and more what they'll do when they (like humans) are inevitably wrong. Driving in major cities often means breaking normal traffic laws because construction, police guidance, or some other circumstance means there is no legal way to progress.
That's the sort of problem that puts L5 vastly further out than this. What does your car do when a traffic cop waves it through a red light, or someone rear-ends it and needs to meet you at a crash reporting zone half a mile down the highway?