>>> "Waymo will be operating a fully autonomous ride hailing service without any humans at the wheel ... Waymo wants to broaden the geographic scope of its trial, starting with expansion in the near-term to cover the entire Phoenix metro area, which represents more acreage than the whole of the Greater London area, he noted" My family is mostly in Tempe / Mesa area (near Chandler, AZ) and during my last few visits I'…
Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
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Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#42What happens if these cars get in a situation where there is no legal way to move? For instance, the other day I was driving down the street and it was closed because of a Farmers market. Will they just sit there for hours? In gridlock, there is often no way to move without "blocking the box."
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#43I do a hit and run on a driverless car, assume its on its way to pickup a passenger, so no humans involved. I hack a driverless car, again with no passengers, and make it do my bidding (hit that other [thing]) I follow driverless car back to its charging base and slash its tires? I rearend a driverless car then leave the scene? (same as option 1 I guess - but could be applied differently) A driverless car gets into i…
How does current society deal with THAT situation?
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#44I do a hit and run on a driverless car, assume its on its way to pickup a passenger, so no humans involved. I hack a driverless car, again with no passengers, and make it do my bidding (hit that other [thing]) I follow driverless car back to its charging base and slash its tires? I rearend a driverless car then leave the scene? (same as option 1 I guess - but could be applied differently) A driverless car gets into i…
OK - im replying to my comment because I find all these answers to be bullshit and here is why: So what these answers say is that you "no longer have any expectation of privacy while driving out and about" -- which is a fine argument to make in a police state, are we a police state - because guess what: this is now saying that any self driving car company has the ability to license plate scan you and take your pictur…
That's not materially different than where we are now, your exaggerations aside.
Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#45What happens if these cars get in a situation where there is no legal way to move? For instance, the other day I was driving down the street and it was closed because of a Farmers market. Will they just sit there for hours? In gridlock, there is often no way to move without "blocking the box."
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#46Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#47I do a hit and run on a driverless car, assume its on its way to pickup a passenger, so no humans involved. I hack a driverless car, again with no passengers, and make it do my bidding (hit that other [thing]) I follow driverless car back to its charging base and slash its tires? I rearend a driverless car then leave the scene? (same as option 1 I guess - but could be applied differently) A driverless car gets into i…
OK - im replying to my comment because I find all these answers to be bullshit and here is why: So what these answers say is that you "no longer have any expectation of privacy while driving out and about" -- which is a fine argument to make in a police state, are we a police state - because guess what: this is now saying that any self driving car company has the ability to license plate scan you and take your pictur…
Why would a private company be any different than a private citizen? Of course they would take photos of you committing a crime against them...
Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#48>>> "Waymo will be operating a fully autonomous ride hailing service without any humans at the wheel ... Waymo wants to broaden the geographic scope of its trial, starting with expansion in the near-term to cover the entire Phoenix metro area, which represents more acreage than the whole of the Greater London area, he noted" My family is mostly in Tempe / Mesa area (near Chandler, AZ) and during my last few visits I'…
This is what I am trying to highlight - what, specifically, are these risks that people need to be made aware of?
So now, in addition to everything, there will come a day when a person is stranded some-place as the driverless car couldnt exactly find them, and the person had to call the call center to get help and guess what... calling the call center for uber and lyft has been an "email us and we wil get back to you in 24 hours" type of thing, so imagine the following scenario which will happen in the next few years:
Person takes a driverless car to an event.
Person winds up being in an unsafe environment and needs immediate assistance.
Person gets into the driverless car way too intoxicated and passes out/overdoses/dies in the car -- need physical help?
So now we have driverless cars effectively classified as emergency ambulances - so assuming the CARNOC is paying attention, they then drive the car to the hospital - and have to have a mechanism to contact said hospital
I think that driverless cars have WAY too many factors that have literally been either not well thought out, or not openly discussed.
I am positive some of these questions have been asked - but I dont see any answers forthcoming.
Imagine the healthcare implications where if someone hasa seizure, ODs, cardiac, etc... what is the response time from the CARNOC, and getting them to a hospital ==> then what types of lawsuits will these companies see? what type of insurance will they require?
Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#49I do a hit and run on a driverless car, assume its on its way to pickup a passenger, so no humans involved. I hack a driverless car, again with no passengers, and make it do my bidding (hit that other [thing]) I follow driverless car back to its charging base and slash its tires? I rearend a driverless car then leave the scene? (same as option 1 I guess - but could be applied differently) A driverless car gets into i…
OK - im replying to my comment because I find all these answers to be bullshit and here is why: So what these answers say is that you "no longer have any expectation of privacy while driving out and about" -- which is a fine argument to make in a police state, are we a police state - because guess what: this is now saying that any self driving car company has the ability to license plate scan you and take your pictur…
How about instead, if just reports crimes that happen to its own vehicle? In the same way that a HUMAN would report crimes that happen to its own vehicle.
Re: Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel
#50What happens if these cars get in a situation where there is no legal way to move? For instance, the other day I was driving down the street and it was closed because of a Farmers market. Will they just sit there for hours? In gridlock, there is often no way to move without "blocking the box."
Probably alert Google HQ, who will then send a human to pick it up in 10 minutes? Or any number of other solutions, as I easily thought up that one in 5 seconds?