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Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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post #6

After my last drone flew off never to be seen again I started looking into open source flight controllers. The open source platform has come a long way. I consider DJI to be the most advanced at FC firmware. But they intentionally limit you so much. My next drones will most likely be a Spark for the interior and an easily upgradable OSS DIY rig for aerial photography. Running Betaflight or iNav.

> After my last drone flew off never to be seen again

How does that happen?

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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post #20
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know how physically robust the Sky Viper is -- the article reports Bayangtoys X16 as being able to take a lot of beating; it would be great if Viper is robust as well.

Totally different classes, the bayangtoys is a brushless copter while the sky viper is a very lightweight brushed copter. Brushless will have an insane amount of power compared to brushed motors. Plus the ones on the sky viper are tiny. The sky viper will hold well in crashes, you can pick up the non-gps version at Walmart. It's a kids toy so its made to be durable. That being said..if you're crashing your GPS assist…

Is it not a toy for grown kids? I'm pretty sure I'd get a kick out of messing about with one, and I'm an adult age-wise.

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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This is why I don't understand why companies lock down their hardware! You're getting free software enhancements and support; unlock that thing! Why waste people's time in reverse engineering your crap, when they could be spending that time building new functionality. For example, Canon and the whole CHDK thing. Canon makes money from selling the hardware; so why lock down the software?

One reason, mentioned, is in order to reserve premium features.

Others are to maintain control over user experience; to simplify QA (making it less expensive, and leading to faster release cycles); reduce support costs; and increase engineering flexibility, by reducing the size of the API surface that requires a deprecation policy in order to avoid disrupting users.

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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post #26

Why are there no robotic airships available? They'd solve most payload and airtime issues that drons currently have. Also great for video since they're not as noisy as a quad and you could also turn off the engine.

There have been, but they’re only practical indoors for reasons others have mentioned.

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

#36
post #28
post #26

Why are there no robotic airships available? They'd solve most payload and airtime issues that drons currently have. Also great for video since they're not as noisy as a quad and you could also turn off the engine.

Airships are mostly disappointing. High drag, so they get thrown around by the wind - and leaks are a constant problem.

In addition, size. While a drone can navigate flying in a busy street with all kinds of overhead wires, the huge size required for an airship would prevent many usage cases - the thing would simply get entangled in wires.

Airships are the best solution if you need something to stay in a specific area/position for longer times... something like an emergency cellphone/wifi BTS after major disaster strikes, but for moving around? Not really.

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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post #33
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally different classes, the bayangtoys is a brushless copter while the sky viper is a very lightweight brushed copter. Brushless will have an insane amount of power compared to brushed motors. Plus the ones on the sky viper are tiny. The sky viper will hold well in crashes, you can pick up the non-gps version at Walmart. It's a kids toy so its made to be durable. That being said..if you're crashing your GPS assist…

Is it not a toy for grown kids? I'm pretty sure I'd get a kick out of messing about with one, and I'm an adult age-wise.

Maybe I worded that incorrectly. What I mean is that you would be fine giving a kid a brushed quadcopter without worrying that they're going to filet themselves (for the most part. Yeah they could cut themselves but the damage would be order of magnitude less than with a brushless). Giving a brushless quadcopter to a kid without any instruction would be totally irresponsible. They're still toys yeah but can be pretty dangerous if you're careless.

Re: Bayangtoys X16: Inexpensive, durable, hackable GPS drone

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post #31
post #6

After my last drone flew off never to be seen again I started looking into open source flight controllers. The open source platform has come a long way. I consider DJI to be the most advanced at FC firmware. But they intentionally limit you so much. My next drones will most likely be a Spark for the interior and an easily upgradable OSS DIY rig for aerial photography. Running Betaflight or iNav.

> After my last drone flew off never to be seen again How does that happen?

On low price/toy grade quads, it is usually because they get out of range of the transmitter so you can't tell them to stop. If you check out some reviews on YouTube, you'll see the reviewer throttle up the quad and turn off the receiver to see how it deals with losing connection. I don't know enough about pricier drones to comment on why they would fly away - software glitch?
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