One paragraph into the article: > while also marvelling at the witless mansplainers Yeah, let’s make every discussion about gender, shall we? How about no?
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
And what do you do when China shows up and says "We're blocking your download servers unless you take Taiwan out of the `country` input"? Better to not centralize the failure points that political actors can put pressure on for what gets to be a country or not.
Wouldn't that be a choice of the browser implementation, likely derived from the locale not unlike time zones?
Well, it's not like Google and Apple haven't bowed to China's requests before.
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#53Stopped reading at "mansplainers".
That comment came about because the originator of the idea tweeted the following when alternative suggestions were raised:
> maybe I’m just fed up with dudes explaining basic shit to me every time I tweet.
Frankly I think she was in the wrong in this occasion. She offered an idea which has a number of obvious flaws then gets confrontational when people offer counterarguments (ok the terseness tweets don't help but that's a platform problem due to its limited character count).
However I say the above without knowing any past history of abuse she might have had on Twitter.
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#54I'm mostly just impressed that HN allows brackets in the title...
I had to edit and replace them with HTML entities, at first they were just stripped.
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#55Good discussion, and it is certainly very nuanced.
The trouble of the developer having to create this list themselves is the reason I made http://devdata.io - so you could at least have an easy starting point for all this data that is basically just copy/paste.
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#56Just do longitude and latitude. Show a map of the earth and let them drop a pin. There is no reasonable way to get the world to agree on a single list. I doubt you could get browser developers to agree on a single list. For example Apple listing Taiwan in Safari could get Apple kicked out of mainland China. There is simply too much politics here to be tenable.
I know what we should do! A dropdown with every possible latitude and longitude combination.
What sort of precision are we talking about, here? If an input is interested in my place of birth, a precision of a square kilometer is typically sufficient. But if someone's asking me where I would like my stuff shipped, I would require a minimum of a square meter.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this contribute to the discussion?
It was said in the original article, so I'd ask how that quip contributes to their own point beyond inviting this exact conversation. It's a very socially charged statement. Do you also expect people to overlook a quip about gun control laws while explaining how monads work in Haskell, or is that conversation off the table because you embedded it inside another topic?
I honestly don’t think the writer was trying to ‘invite this discussion’, she made an offhand comment about her experience. I think people are seizing this as an opportunity to talk about their pet peeve.
The comment doesn’t add to the discussion about whether a country field would be useful or how it could be implemented at all.
But anyway did you read the twitter thread? The writer proposed standardizing a common function so everyone wouldn’t have to roll their own.
A number of guys responded with ‘here’s how to roll your own’ as if she wasn’t intelligent enough to do that herself (and completely missing the point of the tweet).
Do you have a better word for that behavior?
It wasn’t an offhand quip like your gun control example, it directly related to the tweet she was talking about.
And yes, I would think most people could read an article without freaking out that the two words ‘gun control’ were in there if they were off topic.
It seems sad to me that seeing one word in an article is enough to derail the entire conversation because some people don’t like it. It’s not like it was a call to violence or something like that.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then someone tries to use it for an app where you have to select which national football you play for.
Or anything involving legal system/jurisdiction or company registration (both of which are differ between countries within the UK). The UK and the Netherlands are both (according to ISO 3166-2 [0]) countries which contain other countries. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2
In the case of The Netherlands, this is plain wrong.
The Kingdom of the Netherlands contains four countries, being The Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten. According to ISO 3166-2, there exists a country "The Netherlands" which contains the other three. Close, but not correct.
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#60This post looks funny in the Digg RSS reader:
https://i.imgur.com/TNASB3p.png
