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Re: <input type=“country” />

#11

Post by syncordie »

tyingq wrote: post #2

I have my doubts as to whether a generic solution solves this. The author notes some issues, like using it for place of birth. Now you need a temporal list for "countries that existed in year XYZ". There are similar issues for shipping. Not everyone ships everywhere. If the list is abstract and unknown to me, how do I whitelist/blacklist? Am I supposed to know that Scotland exists in the list or not? What if it's for…

An input list of all current passport issuing countries would be useful. The Scotland problem doesn't arise as they don't issue passports (the UK does).

Re: <input type=“country” />

#12

Post by baq »

timezones are a similar topic in the context of managing them, except there's less politics involved. i don't see how a global solution would look like, but i'm sure china will want a different list than russia and the US will want a different list from both of them, and that's only 3 countries out of 199 or 249 or however many are there at the moment (and then the temporal aspect comes into play.)

Re: <input type=“country” />

#14

Post by maxxxxx »

donatj wrote: post #6

Just do longitude and latitude. Show a map of the earth and let them drop a pin. There is no reasonable way to get the world to agree on a single list. I doubt you could get browser developers to agree on a single list. For example Apple listing Taiwan in Safari could get Apple kicked out of mainland China. There is simply too much politics here to be tenable.

I wonder how many people could find a country on a world map and drop a pin. I bet it's not too many.

Re: <input type=“country” />

#15

Post by baq »

syncordie wrote: post #11
tyingq wrote: post #2

I have my doubts as to whether a generic solution solves this. The author notes some issues, like using it for place of birth. Now you need a temporal list for "countries that existed in year XYZ". There are similar issues for shipping. Not everyone ships everywhere. If the list is abstract and unknown to me, how do I whitelist/blacklist? Am I supposed to know that Scotland exists in the list or not? What if it's for…

An input list of all current passport issuing countries would be useful. The Scotland problem doesn't arise as they don't issue passports (the UK does).

what about taiwan? what about taiwan if you're in china...?

Re: <input type=“country” />

#16

Post by Touche »

donatj wrote: post #6

Just do longitude and latitude. Show a map of the earth and let them drop a pin. There is no reasonable way to get the world to agree on a single list. I doubt you could get browser developers to agree on a single list. For example Apple listing Taiwan in Safari could get Apple kicked out of mainland China. There is simply too much politics here to be tenable.

You're overestimating the education levels of more people than you realize.

Re: <input type=“country” />

#17

Post by colanderman »

johansch wrote: post #4

I'm mostly just impressed that HN allows brackets in the title...

Though somehow the submitter replaced the ASCII double-quotes (") in the original title with paired Unicode quotes (“ and ”). Notably the modified title is not valid XML. I wonder if that was necessary to get it past some filter?

Re: <input type=“country” />

#18

Post by dmitriid »

donatj wrote: post #6

Just do longitude and latitude. Show a map of the earth and let them drop a pin. There is no reasonable way to get the world to agree on a single list. I doubt you could get browser developers to agree on a single list. For example Apple listing Taiwan in Safari could get Apple kicked out of mainland China. There is simply too much politics here to be tenable.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code

- http://www.mapcode.com

Re: <input type=“country” />

#19

Post by baq »

Already__Taken wrote: post #8

Classic simple problem that's impossible to solve. The thought that web browsers support could solve this problem speaks volumes about the kind of rate people _think_ software gets updated. You could never trust input=country to be supported much less up to date thus it will always be poly filled by some library. So why the false hope?

this would have to be supported on the network level, something like DNS with temporal querying for 'i was born in yugoslavia' type of forms.
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