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Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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Privacy loving European here. I want to like it, but it gives off a bad vibe. First of all it's too loaded and it doesn't seem to work at all without Javascript enabled. Give me a text field, I don't care about the news. Second, no easy way to add it in my Firefox search engine list. This is really something obvious they should fix, come on. Third, they want you to install an extension that will indeed set qwant as d…

> First of all it's too loaded and it doesn't seem to work at all without Javascript enabled. Give me a text field, I don't care about the news. I genuinely don't understand this hostile statement. Why do you complain that a website isn't functional in pure html in 2017? do you want the web to look like it's 1998?

> I genuinely don't understand this hostile statement. Why do you complain that a website isn't functional in pure html in 2017?

Because sites that rely on javascript typically have terrible performance and broken UI, and add insult to injury by not doing anything that actually needed javascript in the first place.

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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Thanks, but can you please give a specific example? One, I do not share this experience, and think the quality issue is overstated (you are more likely to remember the time that a query failed, than when it succeeded). Two, if you can produce a POC, Google can use this to improve the search results. As is, the issue brought up by original poster is too vague and unspecified to be of any use.

Dude, you're treating it like a bug. It's not. It's intentional behaviour that started 2-3 years ago. Instead of giving you just the formerly relevant results, they give you all kinds of crap that they think you are interested in. You can still revert to the original behaviour by selecting 'Verbatim' from the search tools menu, but you cannot make it default. And in time I'm sure some marketing head will remove even…

Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes. But often you do not need exact match searches to get good results for a random error message. If it happens to you a lot, it should not be a problem to post a single example query that returns useless results.

I do agree that Google is focusing more and more on the common internet user, and not the early tech adopters. This forces us to use tricks like the double quotes, while keeping the search engine user-friendly for the vast majority of ad-clicking internetters.

The behavior you are referring to is called https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_expansion and while this improves the search results for many people with imprecise or misspelled queries, if you trained yourself to search with exact matches, you'll need some time to adapt (or get in the habbit of adding double quotes).

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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post #77

Privacy loving European here. I want to like it, but it gives off a bad vibe. First of all it's too loaded and it doesn't seem to work at all without Javascript enabled. Give me a text field, I don't care about the news. Second, no easy way to add it in my Firefox search engine list. This is really something obvious they should fix, come on. Third, they want you to install an extension that will indeed set qwant as d…

Adding to that: they advertise the app for android. The app wants access to contacts, identity, all available networks (wifi scans) and a bunch of other stuff, where I ask myself why it is needed. I also want(ed) to like it, but you are exactly right about that bad vibe. We finally need a search engine that just costs a monthly fee or gets paid via coinhive or the like....

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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Dude, you're treating it like a bug. It's not. It's intentional behaviour that started 2-3 years ago. Instead of giving you just the formerly relevant results, they give you all kinds of crap that they think you are interested in. You can still revert to the original behaviour by selecting 'Verbatim' from the search tools menu, but you cannot make it default. And in time I'm sure some marketing head will remove even…

Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes. But often you do not need exact match searches to get good results for a random error message. If it happens to you a lot, it should not be a problem to post a single example query that returns useless results. I do agree that Google is focusing more and more on the common internet user,…

Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes.

Come on!!! This is not my first rodeo. I’ve been on the InterNet (yes, with a capital N) since 1993 and I use double quote searching all the time, except that in cases like these one gets zero results back.

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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DGG has about as much red on it as Hacker News: is it such a heavy use of color? At least on desktop in Safari, the site is pretty 'white', and I'm surprised you get literal physical anxiety.

Interesting! Last time I used the service, about 3-4 months ago, the search results page was awash in red. Now it seems that the style has been much improved to the point of usability. I don't get anxiety like before. FWIW I was/am using Firefox on both Fedora and Windows. How long has DDG had its current look for you?

I think I switched to DDG perhaps 5 months ago, although I'm not sure. Happy ducking, hah!

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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You mean, follow the law? Yes. Shocking, isn't it?

So people seem to want a privacy-protecting search engine that provides censored results based on the whims of governments. Ok, that is logical. Did a single person in the EU willingly vote for a censored web? Does anyone actually want the government of France Germany or Turkey deciding what websites you are allowed to visit? Why not put all the servers in a location that actually respects freedom and not censor anyt…

Turkey is not part of the EU.

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes. But often you do not need exact match searches to get good results for a random error message. If it happens to you a lot, it should not be a problem to post a single example query that returns useless results. I do agree that Google is focusing more and more on the common internet user,…

Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes. Come on!!! This is not my first rodeo. I’ve been on the InterNet (yes, with a capital N) since 1993 and I use double quote searching all the time, except that in cases like these one gets zero results back.

It is not relevant that you were on the internet before Google even existed.

Apparently you are the only person in the universe that regularly gets never-before-seen error messages. I feel for you, but I hope you stay away from any issue tracker I am involved in, because no matter your vast experience, the quality of your error reporting is downright poor.

If exact match search is unable to find your error message, then you wouldn't have found it on 2005 Google either. You wouldn't find it on any other search engine. You are (poorly and vaguely) describing a problem that must have always been there and blaming it on an unrelated recent UI change.

All the while unable/unwilling to give a single concrete example, just noisy ranting. For all I know you are, despite your experience, banging your head against the keyboard, until you get 0 results. The burden is on you to show that there is a teapot orbiting the Sun. Good luck!

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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Maybe I never experienced it, because if I want to force exact match results I simply place the error message within double quotes. Come on!!! This is not my first rodeo. I’ve been on the InterNet (yes, with a capital N) since 1993 and I use double quote searching all the time, except that in cases like these one gets zero results back.

It is not relevant that you were on the internet before Google even existed. Apparently you are the only person in the universe that regularly gets never-before-seen error messages. I feel for you, but I hope you stay away from any issue tracker I am involved in, because no matter your vast experience, the quality of your error reporting is downright poor. If exact match search is unable to find your error message, t…

Very interesting. We tell you that google's invasion of privacy is polluting search results, and you keep telling us there are ways around it.

Why should we have to work around it?

Re: Qwant, a European search engine that respects your privacy

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This is an important question, I was wondering the same for very long with DDG. The answer seems to be ads, like everybody else: https://help.qwant.com/help/overview/how-does-qwant-make-mon...

They say: "When you use Qwant, no personal information whatsoever is neither captured or transmitted to advertisers.", but then they also say: "We believe we now have designed a simple and efficient offering by working with the Microsoft Bing ad network." Is it just me, or are these two statements oxymorons?

They probably say "give me some ads for keyword 'react js'" and don't pass on your IP or other identifying info.

Still a problem if you search for your own name, but I don't think you can do much about that. Or maybe MS provides a bloom table / index of all keywords they currenty have ads for, so you can check "offline" before sending it to them?

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