[citation needed (most definitely)] i would wager that devices running linux are in far greater number than intel hardware.
MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
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Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#72Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#73Related talk and slides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo
https://schd.ws/hosted_files/osseu17/84/Replace%20UEFI%20wit...
Interesting Atom boards mentioned in the talk: https://minnowboard.org/
Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#74So does anyone actually have any rough numbers on what kind of specs this MINIX on the IME runs?
I mean, in terms of "this is like a 100MHz CPU with 1MB of RAM" or something.
Also, related: http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack&page=1
Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#75Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#76I do not like the post. It seems scant on details and rife with conclusions. The Google presentation linked to has a bit more detail on the underlying technologies. A modern processor is a complex beast, and a security argument can always be made to reduce complexity. Citation needed for espionage and privacy evasion use cases...
That's not how reliable, safe, secure engineering works. You don't consider stuff safe until someone proves that it will kill you/let people steal your data/whatever, but rather everything is suspect unless it can be demonstrated that according to current state of the art/best practices, it can reasonably be expected to be safe. A bridge isn't considered safe until it collapses, it is considered unsafe until it has b…
That implication was not intended. I was merely attempting to address the FUD. If anything, I took care to mention that all systems are vulnerable and must be assumed as such.
Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not how reliable, safe, secure engineering works. You don't consider stuff safe until someone proves that it will kill you/let people steal your data/whatever, but rather everything is suspect unless it can be demonstrated that according to current state of the art/best practices, it can reasonably be expected to be safe. A bridge isn't considered safe until it collapses, it is considered unsafe until it has b…
That implication was not intended. I was merely attempting to address the FUD. If anything, I took care to mention that all systems are vulnerable and must be assumed as such.
But the point is that it's not FUD if doubt is the correct default position, the situation is in fact uncertain, there is no reasonable way for you to resolve the uncertainty, and fear is justified in the face of that uncertainty.
FUD is when you deliberately avoid getting an accurate picture of the uncertainty/danger so as to paint as bleak a picture as possible and thus induce gratuitous fear.
Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
IPMI. IPMI is not integrated into the main CPU, so you don't have direct ability to control the state of the main CPU, but (depending on implementation) you'll be able to access sensor data, operate on the sensor data logs, get a console etc. With a properly set up system it means you have a standard way to attach, request a reboot and and interact with the system remotely.
IPMI works great on the server, not so well for managing desktops. Perhaps it should have been extended to support desktops, but I'm not surprised that Intel chose to push vPro instead.
Well, yes, they'd rather push an option that doesn't give other companies an opportunity to play in that market.
Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel
#79Remember those hackers from science fiction movies who can control everything everywhere with Internet access? WHY the F*CK is a web server on Ring -3 there? Don't they watch movies at Intel?
It's happening: https://twitter.com/h0t_max/status/928269320064450560