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MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

therealmarv wrote: post #42

Remember those hackers from science fiction movies who can control everything everywhere with Internet access? WHY the F*CK is a web server on Ring -3 there? Don't they watch movies at Intel?

Because intel saw all the dollars pouring into things like SCCM and other enterprise management solutions and wanted a slice of that pie and the only feasible move to grab that market was a hardware solution, like a poor man's iLO. The same way they saw dollars pouring into RAID controllers and integrated its own soft raid solution into their hardware. Not to mention their other market oddities like their mobile x86 chip, their SSD line, Intel TV, etc.

The promise of dollars makes men do odd things.

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by LLbxR4svbi »

therealmarv wrote: post #42

Remember those hackers from science fiction movies who can control everything everywhere with Internet access? WHY the F*CK is a web server on Ring -3 there? Don't they watch movies at Intel?

Sure. Some stern men in suits came over one day and showed them Guantanamo_Bay.avi and AbuGhraib.mp4.

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by cormacrelf »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #39

I don't appreciate the degree to which this article conflates MINIX and IME. >Google wants to remove MINIX from its internal servers No, Google wants to remove IME from its internal servers. They don't care that it's MINIX. >But MINIX has total and complete access to the entirety of your computer. All of it. You mean IME. MINIX is really cool operating system, even if it's being used for evil. But other operating sys…

IME has 'total and access', but so does MINIX, it would appear. Relevantly, MINIX is what you would exploit to break into Ring -3. The article conflates them deliberately.

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by microcolonel »

I mean, the dangerous thing about ME is not the operating system, but the level of access each module has, and the lack of consumer insight.

This article seems to be trying to fluff up ME by defending MINIX (is it MINX3? that's cool, but still doesn't make ME sit right).

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by microcolonel »

cormacrelf wrote: post #54
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #39

I don't appreciate the degree to which this article conflates MINIX and IME. >Google wants to remove MINIX from its internal servers No, Google wants to remove IME from its internal servers. They don't care that it's MINIX. >But MINIX has total and complete access to the entirety of your computer. All of it. You mean IME. MINIX is really cool operating system, even if it's being used for evil. But other operating sys…

IME has 'total and access', but so does MINIX, it would appear. Relevantly, MINIX is what you would exploit to break into Ring -3. The article conflates them deliberately.

On MINIX, you would more likely compromise a process like the file system, and then induce a privileged service to fail, causing the reincarnation server to read your version of that privileged service from the file system; that is, assuming they haven't introduced pervasive load-time signature verification for this version.

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by wiz21c »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #39

I don't appreciate the degree to which this article conflates MINIX and IME. >Google wants to remove MINIX from its internal servers No, Google wants to remove IME from its internal servers. They don't care that it's MINIX. >But MINIX has total and complete access to the entirety of your computer. All of it. You mean IME. MINIX is really cool operating system, even if it's being used for evil. But other operating sys…

Poor Andrew, now his tool is used for evil... Maybe he should have chosen his license more carefully ? Maybe he sold his soul to the devil to beat Linus ?

Or maybe he doesn't care, in which case, he may read : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_ethics

It sounds harsh, I know, but in the age of computers, these questions do matter (imho).

Re: MINIX – The most popular OS in the world, thanks to Intel

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

wiz21c wrote: post #59
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #39

I don't appreciate the degree to which this article conflates MINIX and IME. >Google wants to remove MINIX from its internal servers No, Google wants to remove IME from its internal servers. They don't care that it's MINIX. >But MINIX has total and complete access to the entirety of your computer. All of it. You mean IME. MINIX is really cool operating system, even if it's being used for evil. But other operating sys…

Poor Andrew, now his tool is used for evil... Maybe he should have chosen his license more carefully ? Maybe he sold his soul to the devil to beat Linus ? Or maybe he doesn't care, in which case, he may read : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_ethics It sounds harsh, I know, but in the age of computers, these questions do matter (imho).

Linux is used for evil, too. More pervasively than MINIX, I bet.
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