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Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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>Bitcoin's value is given by the trust people put in it. Just like with the fiat currencies as a matter of fact Except fiat currencies also have that fiat behind them that gives them value. If you want to do business with the US government, you do it in USD. If you are one of the millions employed by the US government, you are paid in USD. If you manipulate USD, you have to answer to the US government. Those things a…

The nation backing of fiat also is its downfall. Look at our monetary base [1] for an example. The US adjusted monetary base in in 1984 was about $183 billion. In the 24 years to 2008 it increased at a roughly linear rate to $874 billion. Just from 2008 to 2015 it increased to more than $4 trillion. The Fed themselves wrote an article [2] expressing some concern about the "nontraditional monetary policy" that instiga…

It's funny how monetary base expansions are STILL used as arguments against fiat money. People like you were predicting doom because of it since 2010. Nothing happened. Except economies recovering, which was the design goal. The FED will also start to reduce its expansion soon, and catastrophe is still not anywhere to be seen. You were simply wrong, get over it.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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Naysayers? Does that mean you are a yes sayer? Bitcoin is a question? Seems more like an overpriced valueless commodity controlled in majority by Chinese miners who have ASIC rigs only a couple companies in the world can produce. So its basically centralized even if the protocol isn't. How much stake do you have in Bitcoin? (Technical people can understand what Bitcoin is and yet despise the blatant canvasing by owne…

Yikes, someone sounds bitter.

There's a lot of unfounded Bitcoin hate on HN, which I've never understood. Just have to brush it off I guess :)

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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post #381

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> I am sure blockchain tech will be hugely successful in the banking and government sector Are you? Why? So far, no bitcoin/blockchain advocates have been able to explain to me a single non-illegal use case that isn't better served by a traditional, centralized database. A single large Postgres instance could handle all the global transaction volume of bitcoin, and it would be faster and orders of magnitude more ener…

I'm more interested in your dismissal of the fact that it can be used to do illegal activity. Do you plan to go the rest of your life without ever breaking a law? And as a sibling poster noted, there can be financial chokeholds even on activities that they didn't bother to make illegal, like donating to Wikileaks. (I don't think you responded to the point that Wikileaks is a non-illegal use case for BTC.)

> (I don't think you responded to the point that Wikileaks is a non-illegal use case for BTC.)

Ok, you're right: Transferring money to unsavory-but-legal groups is a use-case for bitcoin. You could also mail a check.

I'm still not convinced that makes it a promising technology with a bright future, but I've certainly been wrong before.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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post #381

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I'm more interested in your dismissal of the fact that it can be used to do illegal activity. Do you plan to go the rest of your life without ever breaking a law? And as a sibling poster noted, there can be financial chokeholds even on activities that they didn't bother to make illegal, like donating to Wikileaks. (I don't think you responded to the point that Wikileaks is a non-illegal use case for BTC.)

> (I don't think you responded to the point that Wikileaks is a non-illegal use case for BTC.) Ok, you're right: Transferring money to unsavory-but-legal groups is a use-case for bitcoin. You could also mail a check. I'm still not convinced that makes it a promising technology with a bright future, but I've certainly been wrong before.

>Ok, you're right: Transferring money to unsavory-but-legal groups is a use-case for bitcoin. You could also mail a check.

That’s vulnerable to the same financial blockade techniques as for credit cards and forces you to put your name on the donation. (Not to say bitcoin guarantees anonymity but it’s not immediately detectable.)

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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post #296

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They increase the volatility which decreases its value as a currency. If prices are volatile it makes it hard to price items tied to Bitcoin.

Even if Bitcoin's price were stable, it would still be difficult to tie items to Bitcoin when it takes at least an hour per transaction.

Most of my recent bitcoin transactions were all confirmed multiple times within 15 minutes?

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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Imagine a world where you can buy without a merchant, bet without a bookie, get insurance without an underwriter, access finance and loans without a bank, trade without an exchange, purchase commodities without a broker, have law without lawyers, courts and judges, create assets without an issuer, secure escrow without an agent, have internet without an ISP, verify records without a notary, establish reputation and c…

Sounds kind of like the wild west

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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YOU. Fucking hell. You took my go-to username.

Wow, please don't post like this ever again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm a little confused about which guideline I broke. Is it the all caps "you"?

edit: is this account a bot that I triggered?

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