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Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by lucaspiller »

fiala__ wrote: post #84
dragonwriter wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every single website on the internet always was, is and will be HTML (with various kinds of XML/SVG markup sometimes). People just gradually realised proper and standardised web design makes the Web better for everyone, by making it more usable and accessible. Unstyled HTML (optionally with user style sheets) is more usable and accessible than today's one-size-fits-the-designer design for the kind of content that u…

Sure, but 100% unstyled HTML was extremely rare even in the 90s. The problem with everyone writing their own crap HTML is that the sites become terrible and unusable, because they lack good design. What platforms like Twitter/FB initially did was just provide a unified, usable interface to a certain kind of information. Compare to MySpace, which collapsed partly because vast amounts of the profile pages were horrible…

I still (I’m in my twenties) remember building buttons and titles from images. Not really useable unless you are using the resolution the page was designed for, and don’t care about responsiveness or using a screen reader.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by donatj »

Latty wrote: post #42
fiala__ wrote: post #38

> Most websites were written with html, so they were all unique. Every single website on the internet always was, is and will be HTML (with various kinds of XML/SVG markup sometimes). People just gradually realised proper and standardised web design makes the Web better for everyone, by making it more usable and accessible. I don't see why I should feel nostalgia for an Internet plagued by ` `s, poorly-laid out flash…

I saw a lot of people trying to avoid HTML in their websites in the past. The flash ones are the obvious example, but I once had the pleasure of an entire site that looked like any other, except it took forever to load and links worked weirdly. That was because the entire site was an image map over a giant .bmp for each page.

Lol, I remember working in a place where half the devs SWORE Flex was the future of all websites. Really worked out :)

I also remember converting a site made entirely of Java applets to html and JavaScript in the early 2000s.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by pers0n »

Another thing is people often just go to Wikipedia, Wikipedia replaced the need for many fan sites. I had things copied from my sites and put on Wikipedia and tired to get a link back or a source mentioned and it was removed each time. So I lost motivation to even update fan sites, since whatever I type is going to get pasted onto Wikipedia with no link back.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by arca_vorago »

I do, which is why many years ago I told myself I was going to make my websites as js free as possible. Pure, simple, readable html5+css is my long term goal.

The thing is, this part of the web still exists, it's actually just simply harder to find due to the control on the filter big corps have these days. You just have to search. I am regularly adding hackers blogs to my bookmarks. Sometimes they stopped updating in 2012, but their writing still looks worthwhile. The real democratization of knowledge the internet offers to us is there for the taking if people would break free from their self-forged filter-bubble shackles.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by cheschire »

pers0n wrote: post #193

Another thing is people often just go to Wikipedia, Wikipedia replaced the need for many fan sites. I had things copied from my sites and put on Wikipedia and tired to get a link back or a source mentioned and it was removed each time. So I lost motivation to even update fan sites, since whatever I type is going to get pasted onto Wikipedia with no link back.

And wikia. That replaced much of the need for fictional fan sites. I visit memory alpha weekly.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by observation »

JohnBooty wrote: post #116
rayiner wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is not great for finding stuff. I’ve complained at length about how bad it is for doing research, but recently I’ve also found it’s totally useless for finding things like reviews of products (unless it’s something like the new iPhone). It’s like legitimate reviews are a casualty in the war between Google and clickbait SEO crap.

This is true. The only way I can find product buying advice is: 1. To find a community of enthusiasts and see what they have to say about products in that space. This works pretty well for products that actually have enthusiasts. 2. Go to Amazon and read a product's bad reviews. The good reviews are nearly useless. But, with bad reviews, you have to weigh the number of bad reviews against the product's popularity. If…

> annnnnnnd.... I'll let you know when I find another one.

Recommend the BIFL (buy it for life) community on Reddit.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by krylon »

qznc wrote: post #34

They are still out there. Probably even more than ever. You just don't find them because the SEO-sites drain away all traffic. I believe my own site would qualify? http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/

The article on using Lua from D looks very interesting! I've been meaning to get to know D in more depth for a while now, this looks like a good starting point for a small toy project.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by frik »

MySpace, Tripod, GeoCities, LiveJournal, and similar free hosted/services had a lot of interesting, weird, etc pages. It was easy and friction free to create a new site. Everyone had a copy of Frontpage/Dreamweaver/GoLive/HomeSite/iWeb/Composer on his PC and uploading worked with a browser form, one file at a time.
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