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28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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Interestingly enough it seems that public mentions of this don't destroy business. Here is a Planet Money podcast from 2015 http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/07/26/539552579/episo... . I thought at this time the days for arbitrage like this would be counted. Apparently not.

There was a line in the article like “anyone can do it if they put in the work”. It’s still work with some risk, so I don’t think articles like this hurt the biz too much.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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I will occasionally search Amazon for things whose prices I know, like Trader Joe's items or something I bought at a local store. Sometimes Amazon sells it themselves, in which case the prices are reasonable. But often, somebody random will be selling it at a large markup. My theory is that plenty of people are not particularly price sensitive and just want the thing to appear. I'm stubborn enough (or cheap enough) t…

I have a similar feeling when I look at houses to buy online. If I see the house was bought for 40%+ less just a few years ago, I refuse to give an offer. Even if the price seemed reasonable and it interests me. I refuse to reward people who bought low and want to flip it for much higher (if it increased reasonably, fine)

How do you know they didn't invest a significant amount to fix issues? What they paid for it isn't a useful measure if you don't know the condition it was in.

Comparable sales prices for recently sold similar homes would seem a better measure.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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I am surprised that there is so much margin. Is this because: 1. Amazon product delivery is so convenient that users don't mind paying little extra or 2. Walmart discounts products valuing their warehouse space more. Thus not realizing there was demand for the product elsewhere or at a different time. Seems like it would be simple for Walmart to figure out this arbitrage and shelve products for longer time. Any thoug…

Exactly both - this is a temporary sort of arbitrage but is great for both these entrepreneurs and the end consumer in the short term. I will be surprised if they survive in the long term, since most of their business model is designed around the lack of Walmart and Amazon talking to each other. I think it would take a relatively simple collaboration between the two (though that might never happen) to completely dest…

> relatively simple collaboration between the two

Wouldn't this fall foul to some kind of anti-collusion laws?

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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I have a similar feeling when I look at houses to buy online. If I see the house was bought for 40%+ less just a few years ago, I refuse to give an offer. Even if the price seemed reasonable and it interests me. I refuse to reward people who bought low and want to flip it for much higher (if it increased reasonably, fine)

Certainly those increases in price are because the person put significant time and money into improving the property. It's not any more of a "reward" than your salary is "reward".

Not certainly - it's very common for a neighborhood to shoot up in value (because of something that individual homeowners don't do, like a major employer moving in or getting successful, or a train station being built, or a nearby neighborhood getting full), and so the market value of the same home at the same condition can increase dramatically just because the neighborhood has more demand.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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Maybe the older ones keep their ideas to themselves?

Haha yes, that could also be true. It doesn't seem like a great idea to share your formula and encourage lots of other people to start doing it.

There's practically unlimited money to be made in the "I'll teach you to be rich" industry. It's much less work and much more lucrative than retail arbitrage.

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You're confusing the salary he pays himself with the success of the business.

There's this: "Grant says the business is on track to top $8 million in total sales by the end of this year" But, the actual net margin is unclear. At least $150k, since he paid himself that. But it's not clear that it's millions.

the article says "his business is making seven-figure profits"

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It seems he is already moving on by entering the self help/motivational speaker industry. > As his business is increasingly run by his team, Grant has reduced his salary down to $60,000 a year and now dedicates much of his time to getting that message out. He consults and teaches e-commerce classes through the same blog he has been using to track his performance.

In other words, his business isn't working out very well and he has a lot of inventory risk. So he's "pivoting" to self-help.

It may have been working fine, and he simply chose to pivot careers rather than scale what he had.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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Very hard to believe, you'd have to be very naive to reveal your arbitrage like this.

Retail arbitrage is already very popular on Amazon. It might not have much of a future though with Amazon heading towards not accepting those invoices when reviewing an account.

I think the opportunity is probably too small and time consuming for big business to come in and destroy the opportunity. Similar to how small eBay sellers are able to import stuff straight off alibaba and make a profit.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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Back few years ago I was able to make extra $10,000 on Amazon by selling $200 packs of $2 for around $240 + shipping, because everyone thinks they are super-unique. Meanwhile a mere trip to a bank is required with request for a "$200 BRICK". I takes about 10 business days for BEP to ship it to your bank and you can order multiple times, no problem. My best month was December of course with I believe $18,000 in one month because everyone want to have a pack to give out as a x-mas gift. The work took my friend that I outsources about 3 hours a day. I only checked on her on the weekend and if she has any issues (merely). I remember how upset she was at me cause she knew the business but she couldn't afford to get Bricks from Bank herself.

Eventually Amazon banned me for selling currency instruments, but it least 10 months.

Re: 28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

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There's this: "Grant says the business is on track to top $8 million in total sales by the end of this year" But, the actual net margin is unclear. At least $150k, since he paid himself that. But it's not clear that it's millions.

the article says "his business is making seven-figure profits"

Hmm. Seems unlikely given the manual nature of shopping at WalMart, shipping costs, returns, etc, on an $8M revenue base.

Edit: He contradicts himself..."four years later, we're a team of 11 and we're doing well over $200,000 in sales per month"

$200k/month isn't even close to $8M/year. And you aren't netting 7 figures with $200k/month and 11 employees. Now I'm thinking this is just a puff piece for his get-rich-quick lecture series. Too bad, as it's probably still a decent story with the actual figures. Just not a rags to riches one.

I'm also having trouble visualizing 11 people buying $8M (retail) worth of stuff from WalMart in shopping carts. That's $2k per day, per employee, every day.

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