I disagree, here's Mark Twain's quote on the matter: "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." ― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad
For the love of Earth, stop traveling
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Re: For the love of Earth, stop traveling
#12Telling people to please stop doing things that are profoundly enjoyable, in opinion columns, seems like the stupidest possible idea for how to solve the climate crisis.
Also, you see, other peoples' travelings are mostly stupid and pointless, but my own travels enriches the world!
How much of flying is business travel anyway? You think people are going to tell their bosses they're not taking the plane for that sales meeting because of teh climate?
Maybe a tiny amount of virtuous people, but generally hell no.
The vegetarianism and animal rights movement has had many decades to convince people to give up meat and it's just not happening. People eat more and more meat.
Re: For the love of Earth, stop traveling
#13I disagree, here's Mark Twain's quote on the matter: "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." ― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad
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#14The French do 85% of their Electricity on Nuclear because they built a bunch of identical plants at the same time thereby saving massively on costs.
And then repeat in the Nevada desert.
Costs have a lot do do with 'insurance' 'fuel' massive overhead of bureaucracy. It's like building a tunnel in Boston - massive soft corruption, stupidity etc.
The actual, bare-bones costs of a nuke plant should not be that high.
Do 1000 at once, as an 'international project' ...
And then coordinate with major economies to do likewise: China, India, Europe & Africa (built in Sahara), Middle East (built in Saudi Arabia defended by American troops), Argentina.
Built in regional pricing mechanisms (i.e. guaranteed x% to Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Vietnam, Brazil etc.)
And 15% goes directly to atmospheric CO2 capture.
Now there's a 'Marshall Plan'.
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#15That's probably not something the Washington Post is likely to advocate for though. Their relationship to the military industrial complex is eerily close, especially now that they're a big customer of Bezos: http://www.accuracy.org/release/cia-cloud-over-jeff-bezoss-w...
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#16Or stop consuming so much. Traveling, especially without airplanes (which is perfectly possible in lots of parts of the world -- vacationing to a train/car-accessible country that is), is trivial compared to industrial production of crap. Making advertising illegal would decrease needless consumption (and pollution) by a ton, plus all the benefits for our quality of life.
Re: For the love of Earth, stop traveling
#17I disagree, here's Mark Twain's quote on the matter: "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." ― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad
I think it's less applicable now that the world is getting more homogenous - i.e. you can go to almost any country and spend most of your time in your American hotel, drink coffee at Starbucks, shop in American-style mall and even speak English to lots of locals. Of course, you can go out of comfort zone and interact with local culture, but in the past it was a necessity and now it's an effort you need to consciously…
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Also, you see, other peoples' travelings are mostly stupid and pointless, but my own travels enriches the world!
Or, like, my life is a nightmare for reasons X Y and Z and now I can't even go on vacation to a warm place when the winter comes? How much of flying is business travel anyway? You think people are going to tell their bosses they're not taking the plane for that sales meeting because of teh climate? Maybe a tiny amount of virtuous people, but generally hell no. The vegetarianism and animal rights movement has had many…
Where are you getting your stats from? Vegetarianism seems on the rise to me. There are some stats to Back it up, too: 2.5% in 2009 to 5% in 2014.
[1] http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/is-2014-the-year-of-the-v...
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Making advertising illegal Might as well make money illegal.
Let's say you're selling product X at price Y. There are three kinds of people you could reach with advertising: * People who have an unmet need for product X at price Y. * People whose need for product X at price Y is already met, but who can be manipulated into buying from you rather than someone else. * People who don't need product X at price Y, but can be manipulated into needing it. Advertising is only good for…
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Let's say you're selling product X at price Y. There are three kinds of people you could reach with advertising: * People who have an unmet need for product X at price Y. * People whose need for product X at price Y is already met, but who can be manipulated into buying from you rather than someone else. * People who don't need product X at price Y, but can be manipulated into needing it. Advertising is only good for…
Do you volunteer to be the one to inform business owners and small art house cinema operators that they're now forbidden to engage in any marketing of their goods and services, and all the media that the majority of their revenue is now illegal? This is a completely unrealistic fantasy unless you want to provoke a large scale uprising.