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Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by username223 »

5ourpuss wrote: post #46

I'm from the Midwest, from the Cedar Rapids area, moved to Chicago, and I have to say I would NEVER EVER move back there. People from these areas are extremely conservative and xenophobic. The restaurants and any business you might frequent are of lower quality. These cities are not world class cities. Claiming that they are is just ignorant. You end up trapped in a little bubble with nowhere to escape to, surrounded…

> no museums or after-school clubs or protests to attend.

Would that I could attend more protests. Good riddance.

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by selectodude »

sitkack wrote: post #39
aantix wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ever"? We live in an affluent neighborhood surrounded by Doctors and CPAs. Our kids see that every day. That's their normal. And if/when there are major budget changes to the district, who do you think are the first parents in line advocating for their school? You literally buy your kids a chance at a better future.

School funds should be distributed equally across the entire population. If we were a democracy, rich neighborhoods wouldn't have better schools.

The wealthiest school districts in the country tend to be the worst.

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by wbl »

athenot wrote: post #30
Nelkins wrote: post #21

I think about this a lot, mostly about Rochester, NY (where I went to college). It has world-class universities (and a renowned music conservatory[1]!), great history, festivals, relatively low unemployment[2] and the housing is dirt, dirt cheap[3]. The thing is, right now I make a pretty great salary in NYC and I don't know that anything in Rochester could come close, even taking into account cost of living. Even if…

Affordable housing and good salaries are usually on the conflicting ends of the same scale. A place that has high-paying jobs will have residents out-bidding each other, driving up the prices of the housing market. Conversely, super cheap housing is usually an indicator that there really is no demand from affluent residents. As a counter-point to what I just said, more and more information-based jobs can be done remo…

Or we could remove housing supply restrictions

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by wbl »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #14
froindt wrote: post #12

Surprised to see Cedar Rapids, IA on the list. I grew up in the area and it was not very appealing to stay in the area. Growing up, everybody's parents worked at Rockwell Collins, and not many of my peers had intentions of staying in the area. Few did. In the last few years I have noticed changes around the city. Some big investments downtown, new developments for commercial and shopping space, etc. I doubt Cedar Rap…

>In the last few years I have noticed changes around the city. Some big investments downtown, new developments for commercial and shopping space, etc. I guess investors have the big cities' real estate markets locked down. Now they're trying the same gentrification game in small towns to get rents raised?

The people who raise rents ard the ones who limit the supply of housing.

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

#55

Post by [deleted] »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #41

This article is 5 or 7 years too late. We already moved to cities. Now we want to be married and do things that require yards. Or at least own a small piece of the city and no longer be at the mercy of landlords (non-rent controlled renters). Most importantly, I’ve learned the joy and importance being near my family and spending time with them. These are all things I never cared about in my 20s.

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Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by [deleted] »

sitkack wrote: post #39
aantix wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ever"? We live in an affluent neighborhood surrounded by Doctors and CPAs. Our kids see that every day. That's their normal. And if/when there are major budget changes to the district, who do you think are the first parents in line advocating for their school? You literally buy your kids a chance at a better future.

School funds should be distributed equally across the entire population. If we were a democracy, rich neighborhoods wouldn't have better schools.

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Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by rev_bird »

Entangled wrote: post #2

> “The 18- to 35-year-olds expect something like that, but they just didn’t have it,” said Tyler Hodge, 32, who used crowdfunding to help finance the shop. The same tactic was used for a rock climbing gym opened in September by a group of young engineers who, like Hodge, spend their weekdays working at Cummins Inc., the diesel engine company that is the city’s largest employer. Crowdfunding for brick-and-mortar? Now…

A brewpub in Minneapolis crowdfunded about $250k, though the actual financial arrangement seems a little funky, as you'd imagine: http://www.startribune.com/beer-for-life-brewpub-for-all/171...

If you invested $1,000, you got free beer for life.

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

#58

Post by aantix »

selectodude wrote: post #52
sitkack wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

School funds should be distributed equally across the entire population. If we were a democracy, rich neighborhoods wouldn't have better schools.

The wealthiest school districts in the country tend to be the worst.

Citation?

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

#59

Post by shostack »

5ourpuss wrote: post #46

I'm from the Midwest, from the Cedar Rapids area, moved to Chicago, and I have to say I would NEVER EVER move back there. People from these areas are extremely conservative and xenophobic. The restaurants and any business you might frequent are of lower quality. These cities are not world class cities. Claiming that they are is just ignorant. You end up trapped in a little bubble with nowhere to escape to, surrounded…

Oddly enough, I lived in Chicago most of my life and moved up the Bay Area. I'd be hard pressed to ever move back despite the network of family and friends there.

The weather is beyond awful. The crime rate is through the roof. Rents and house prices have gone through the roof, while comp has not. The city is broke and horribly corrupt.

Don't get me wrong... There's a lot of amazing things about Chicago and it will always have a place in my heart. And the food is indeed good (if leaning towards the super unhealthy and indulgent side). But I'd be hard-pressed to ever move back from my overpriced starter home in the Bay.

Re: Millennials to Small Cities: Ready or Not, Here We Come

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Post by jimmaswell »

athenot wrote: post #30
Nelkins wrote: post #21

I think about this a lot, mostly about Rochester, NY (where I went to college). It has world-class universities (and a renowned music conservatory[1]!), great history, festivals, relatively low unemployment[2] and the housing is dirt, dirt cheap[3]. The thing is, right now I make a pretty great salary in NYC and I don't know that anything in Rochester could come close, even taking into account cost of living. Even if…

Affordable housing and good salaries are usually on the conflicting ends of the same scale. A place that has high-paying jobs will have residents out-bidding each other, driving up the prices of the housing market. Conversely, super cheap housing is usually an indicator that there really is no demand from affluent residents. As a counter-point to what I just said, more and more information-based jobs can be done remo…

I feel like if all work was suddenly remote, city residency would drop at least 50% in a week. I hope remote eventually becomes the norm. There are probably a lot more like me out there who even in their 20s only work in a metro area solely out of necessity. I have a hard time imagining that all these people I see on HN pining for city living and making suburbs out to be worse than prison are more than a vocal minority.
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