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Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

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Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

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I hope Damore wins.

Me, too. Just so ironic how the responses of Silicon Valley/Media proved his point exactly.

He made sizable list of claims, criticism of any of them is not evidence of what he was saying.

My belief that you are wrong about Damore doesn't make you right. This should go without saying, but you made a new account to say that.

Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

#6

These cowards don't link to the original: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-I... Instead, they link to the heavily edited Gizmodo hit piece, that has the sources removed. Dishonest

Thank you for this. I agree that they are cowards. Damore is completely right, certain members of our society are shaming others into silence for supposed psychological safety.

I also feel that money and political power are on the line too, which just heightens the needs for shaming others into silence, in their minds.

Let's see what happens to our posts.

EDIT: also Damore was attacked non-stop during his interview with Siliconbeat if I remember correctly.

Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

#7

I hope Damore wins.

Me, too. Just so ironic how the responses of Silicon Valley/Media proved his point exactly.

If would be nice if people read his memo in the original form, and then made up their mind - whatever the outcome, it would be an improvement. But the chilling effect of collective outrage means no dialog will happen, so it's futile anyway.

Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

#8

These cowards don't link to the original: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-I... Instead, they link to the heavily edited Gizmodo hit piece, that has the sources removed. Dishonest

Looking at the poster's history, I imagine this was "laziness" rather than "cowardice".

For an example of cowardice, take note when this thread is almost certainly flagged and buried within the next hour or two.

Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me, too. Just so ironic how the responses of Silicon Valley/Media proved his point exactly.

He made sizable list of claims, criticism of any of them is not evidence of what he was saying. My belief that you are wrong about Damore doesn't make you right. This should go without saying, but you made a new account to say that.

> This should go without saying, but you made a new account to say that.

...due to fear of the consequences of publicly holding a non-mainstream opinion in a culture-war subject, I assume. While I agree that merely being contrarian doesn't make the GP right, I also believe that calling them out for trying to protect themselves isn't very helpful.

Re: Google’s fired engineer: James Damore’s claim against search giant revealed

#10
This article mentions that in California there is no protection of freedom of speech in employment (i.e. a company can terminate you for voicing an opinion it doesn't want voiced), but this seems to be the premise of Damore's unfair dismissal claim?

On that basis, I can't see him having much of a chance.

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