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PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Re: PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Post by daviddias »

marknadal wrote: post #16

Hey, David/others I'm very impressed with your work on Y-JS (the CRDT library powering this). I'm the author of gun, which is currently (as far as I know from stats) the most popular CRDT-based data sync (MIT/ZLIB/Apache2 licensed, 6.6K+ stars, https://github.com/amark/gun ). Usually I'm pretty skeptical of most systems, but I'm rather particularly impressed with yours. I also do not think you are getting the recogni…

Hi Mark,

Congratz on developing Gun! I've looked at it before and I was super impressed! The decision to use Y.js instead was done due to its modularity. We added IPFS support by simply publishing a connector https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/y-ipfs-connector which Kevin Jahns later added to the list of connectors - https://github.com/y-js/yjs/issues/77

We have linked Y.js from the page header, if you click the word CRDT it takes you to Y.js directly. Nevertheless, I agree that we need to make it more obvious How we appreciate all the work that Kevin has put into Y.js :) Do not worry, PeerPad nor our CRDT usage is finished, there will be a lot more! (In fact, PeerPad was built with little less than 4 weeks of actual dev time, there is so much more we can do).

I'm following up by email, I'm interested in testing Gun as well. Meanwhile, join the CRDT discussion on the Research CRDT (https://github.com/ipfs/research-crdt) Repo, would love to have your input there.

Cheers!

Re: PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Post by gritzko »

daviddias wrote: post #21
marknadal wrote: post #16

Hey, David/others I'm very impressed with your work on Y-JS (the CRDT library powering this). I'm the author of gun, which is currently (as far as I know from stats) the most popular CRDT-based data sync (MIT/ZLIB/Apache2 licensed, 6.6K+ stars, https://github.com/amark/gun ). Usually I'm pretty skeptical of most systems, but I'm rather particularly impressed with yours. I also do not think you are getting the recogni…

Hi Mark, Congratz on developing Gun! I've looked at it before and I was super impressed! The decision to use Y.js instead was done due to its modularity. We added IPFS support by simply publishing a connector https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/y-ipfs-connector which Kevin Jahns later added to the list of connectors - https://github.com/y-js/yjs/issues/77 We have linked Y.js from the page header, if you click the word C…

It's good you welcome contributions to your open platform. In case your next demo is based on my work, please notify me in advance.

Re: PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Post by wscott »

wscott wrote: post #3

It didn't work for me, but might be busy. This is IPFS and it theory will use the javascript IPFS server in your browser unless it can find a local IPFS daemon on your machine. (Or perhaps it uses one of the gateways?) How do they prevent the data from disappearing if everyone disconnects?

> didn't work

Nevermind. I was testing quickly in the airport between flights. Now I see I just had a flaky connection.

Re: PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Post by pgte »

marknadal wrote: post #16

Hey, David/others I'm very impressed with your work on Y-JS (the CRDT library powering this). I'm the author of gun, which is currently (as far as I know from stats) the most popular CRDT-based data sync (MIT/ZLIB/Apache2 licensed, 6.6K+ stars, https://github.com/amark/gun ). Usually I'm pretty skeptical of most systems, but I'm rather particularly impressed with yours. I also do not think you are getting the recogni…

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your interest!

Off the CRDT libraries we analysed, Y.js was the one we picked up as it very modular, so that we could create our own connector and database layer.

These are all open-source: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/y-ipfs-connector and the encryption layer wrapping the database adaptor: https://github.com/pgte/y-indexeddb-encrypted/tree/encrypted

About the richtextdetails, the CRDT is based off of Quill.js deltas (https://github.com/quilljs/delta), composed by an array of such operations.

Anyway, this is all interim work, and we plan on making this independent of any specific library by implementing a generic CRDT on top of IPFS DAG and Pubsub APIs. If you're interested you can follow / chime in here: https://github.com/ipfs/research-CRDT/issues/11

Re: PeerPad – A realtime P2P collaborative editing tool powered by IPFS

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Post by diggan »

wscott wrote: post #23
wscott wrote: post #3

It didn't work for me, but might be busy. This is IPFS and it theory will use the javascript IPFS server in your browser unless it can find a local IPFS daemon on your machine. (Or perhaps it uses one of the gateways?) How do they prevent the data from disappearing if everyone disconnects?

> didn't work Nevermind. I was testing quickly in the airport between flights. Now I see I just had a flaky connection.

Thanks for reporting back and happy to hear it was just a flaky connection, even though we want to make IPFS make better on flaky connections.
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