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Post by pwnage »

karpodiem wrote: post #197

I've owned various iPhones (starting with the 4 in 2010) and I'm going to take a serious look at the Pixel 3 in 2018. Performance is a feature, and I don't see a compelling reason why I should upgrade my 6S. I have a suspicion that Apple will keep the '6' chassis they've stuck with since the release of the 6 (6/6S/7/8) at 2GB of memory, and will continue to do so with the 9 next year. Pixel 2 performance with 4GB of…

Have an X

Face ID unlock is waaaay faster than touch ID every was for me. Especially considering how often touch ID failed due to sweat / grease.

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Post by damnyou »

acdha wrote: post #340
damnyou wrote: post #332

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Of course it doesn't, but Android already does the aggregation for me so that I don't miss important notifications from other apps. It's just a better way of working.

Again, it’s a question of degrees: you’re talking like this is a dealbreaker but it seems like more of an edge case.

I do think it, along with all the other ways iOS is deficient, is a deal breaker. I finally switched to Android after years on iPhone and I can't believe how much of an idiot I was for not switching earlier.

At least I wasn't enough of an idiot to use iMessage and get locked into the Apple ecosystem.

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Post by karpodiem »

pwnage wrote: post #341
karpodiem wrote: post #197

I've owned various iPhones (starting with the 4 in 2010) and I'm going to take a serious look at the Pixel 3 in 2018. Performance is a feature, and I don't see a compelling reason why I should upgrade my 6S. I have a suspicion that Apple will keep the '6' chassis they've stuck with since the release of the 6 (6/6S/7/8) at 2GB of memory, and will continue to do so with the 9 next year. Pixel 2 performance with 4GB of…

Have an X Face ID unlock is waaaay faster than touch ID every was for me. Especially considering how often touch ID failed due to sweat / grease.

My phone is typically resting on my desktop most of the time. I want an unlock solution that doesn't require picking up the device.

Touch ID authentication misses are rare in my experience with the devices I've owned since the 5S.

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Post by mbo »

mcphage wrote: post #248
damnyou wrote: post #233

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Chat heads are a great feature, and of course you can turn them off if you like. iOS doesn't even give you the option to do that.

Chat heads are a terrible feature, and now that you told me I can turn them off I’m going to go do that immediately.

What's your main issue with them? Aren't they just a superior version of the "reply-in-notification" feature of iOS?

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Post by gutnor »

karpodiem wrote: post #197

I've owned various iPhones (starting with the 4 in 2010) and I'm going to take a serious look at the Pixel 3 in 2018. Performance is a feature, and I don't see a compelling reason why I should upgrade my 6S. I have a suspicion that Apple will keep the '6' chassis they've stuck with since the release of the 6 (6/6S/7/8) at 2GB of memory, and will continue to do so with the 9 next year. Pixel 2 performance with 4GB of…

> Does it have a fingerprint reader?

Reminds me of the attributed quote from Ford saying "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a faster horse"

Fingerprint reader is just a mean to an end to provide secure login. How quickly people forget that a few years back people were asking Apple to introduce gesture-based pin entry like on Android phone. Fingerprint reader made that requirement obsolete.

Also, there are new workflow that are enabled by FaceId. For example, it is completely reasonable to require authentication before popping out the keyboard, before sending any message, change any option, or switch to another application, ...

That's huge. There was no way back to pin code to me once fingerprint allowed me to remove the grace period for no authentication on the lock screen. The workflows I mentioned above (if practical in reality) similarly would change the game and remove any interest to fingerprints reader. (well assuming FaceId works as Apple demoed - that's a big if in the first gen of the technology)

edit: side note - fingerprint working on the whole screen would allow the same workflows that I mentioned. That would be a competing technology worth looking at.

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Post by incompatible »

toasterlovin wrote: post #324
incompatible wrote: post #218

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Does Apple actually manufacture anything itself? I thought it was all outsourced. That would make them a software and hardware-design company, but not really a manufacturer.

Not doing the final assembly yourself does not somehow disqualify you from being a hardware company. There is no company in the world that possesses the manufacturing prowesss of Apple, yet they all have access to the same final assembly shop (Foxconn, basically).

The component manufacture is outsourced too isn't it? It seems they have been setting up or buying some chip fabrication facilities, but does any current Apple product contain anything built in an Apple factory?

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Post by toasterlovin »

incompatible wrote: post #346
toasterlovin wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not doing the final assembly yourself does not somehow disqualify you from being a hardware company. There is no company in the world that possesses the manufacturing prowesss of Apple, yet they all have access to the same final assembly shop (Foxconn, basically).

The component manufacture is outsourced too isn't it? It seems they have been setting up or buying some chip fabrication facilities, but does any current Apple product contain anything built in an Apple factory?

I don’t get it. Apple makes the best mobile processors in the world. They routinely introduce low volume manufacturing techniques to the iPhone, which they then scale to 100+ million units per year. How are they somehow not a hardware company?

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Post by amazingman »

karpodiem wrote: post #343
pwnage wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have an X Face ID unlock is waaaay faster than touch ID every was for me. Especially considering how often touch ID failed due to sweat / grease.

My phone is typically resting on my desktop most of the time. I want an unlock solution that doesn't require picking up the device. Touch ID authentication misses are rare in my experience with the devices I've owned since the 5S.

My understanding is that the screen wakes up to a slight nudge on the screen, though I’m not sure how well Face ID works at such an angle.

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Post by amazingman »

dom96 wrote: post #153
gehsty wrote: post #32

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You have to point the sensor towards your face and look at the screen. So far feels pretty natural, 70-80% time the phone is unlocked before I think ‘is the phone unlocked’ the rest of the time I forget I need to glance (literally glance with your eyes) at the phone, which I think comes from muscle memory of from unlocking with touchid and not looking at the phone while it unlocks... Passive security, will become sta…

I'm curious about the battery usage of this. If it's constantly looking for faces, won't this drain the battery significantly?

If iFixit’s characterization is correct, then the authentication process happens in stages, each of which is more energy expensive (and likely uses different hardware) than the previous stage. If true, then it stands to reason that there is at least a conceptual path to minimizing overall energy budget.

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Post by arvinsim »

ReverseCold wrote: post #246
damnyou wrote: post #237

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Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.

Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?

This runs contrary to Apple's philosophy. The user should not have to do anything.
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