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Why use this over TypeScript?
Other than that, if your backend is kotlin then you can potentially share (non JVM dependent) business logic code with the backed. Same goes for android clients. Same interfaces can be be used in client and server.
Can I use this outside IntelliJ (Atom perhaps)? I despise JavaScript, GWT is underwhelming and Kotlin seems like a nice way to bypass these issues + React is becoming a de-facto standard. IntelliJ became too big/slow/feature creeped and I am not having good time with the latest code completion changes, so I am considering dropping it (PyCharm as well) for something more light-weight.
and their response, on their forum, was that they are intentionally make hard to avoid the jetbrains ide while using kotlin
now technically you still can, kotlin is open source, and you can download it standalone, if you search hard enough
i am not really sure, how jetbrains think kotlin will help it long term to increase its sales .. but this seems to be one of their objectives .. they did not create kotlin just for the sake of it (and nothing wrong with that)
Can I use this outside IntelliJ (Atom perhaps)? I despise JavaScript, GWT is underwhelming and Kotlin seems like a nice way to bypass these issues + React is becoming a de-facto standard. IntelliJ became too big/slow/feature creeped and I am not having good time with the latest code completion changes, so I am considering dropping it (PyCharm as well) for something more light-weight.
Well, I did comment once on the Koltin Jetbrains forum, about how hard they make to download ... just kotlin ... outside of the jetbrains ide and their response, on their forum, was that they are intentionally make hard to avoid the jetbrains ide while using kotlin now technically you still can, kotlin is open source, and you can download it standalone, if you search hard enough i am not really sure, how jetbrains th…
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Wow. I had no idea. That’s great to know. Thanks for relaying that info. Do you have any further resources you recommend with regards to this?
Here's a whole stack app built by JetBrains themselves in Kotlin with React for front end https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlin-fullstack-sample
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Well, I did comment once on the Koltin Jetbrains forum, about how hard they make to download ... just kotlin ... outside of the jetbrains ide and their response, on their forum, was that they are intentionally make hard to avoid the jetbrains ide while using kotlin now technically you still can, kotlin is open source, and you can download it standalone, if you search hard enough i am not really sure, how jetbrains th…
I am happy JetBrains became a full-blown real software company (where I count only companies with their own programming language) instead of aping Atlassian (their main competitor), and Kotlin has some interesting ideas. They are closest to Borland we have these days; independent small company with quality development tools. Though the code completion quality dropped so much lately (e.g. in PyCharm it became complete…
Remember that the community edition is open source
They are an open company and do offer a lot completly for free
Borland was .. a very traditional closed company
Can I use this outside IntelliJ (Atom perhaps)? I despise JavaScript, GWT is underwhelming and Kotlin seems like a nice way to bypass these issues + React is becoming a de-facto standard. IntelliJ became too big/slow/feature creeped and I am not having good time with the latest code completion changes, so I am considering dropping it (PyCharm as well) for something more light-weight.
The Vue.JS community would beg to differ.
But yeah, if JetBrains could implement something like the Rust Language Server for Kotlin I would be so happy.
Can I use this outside IntelliJ (Atom perhaps)? I despise JavaScript, GWT is underwhelming and Kotlin seems like a nice way to bypass these issues + React is becoming a de-facto standard. IntelliJ became too big/slow/feature creeped and I am not having good time with the latest code completion changes, so I am considering dropping it (PyCharm as well) for something more light-weight.
> React is becoming a de-facto standard The Vue.JS community would beg to differ. But yeah, if JetBrains could implement something like the Rust Language Server for Kotlin I would be so happy.
Can I use this outside IntelliJ (Atom perhaps)? I despise JavaScript, GWT is underwhelming and Kotlin seems like a nice way to bypass these issues + React is becoming a de-facto standard. IntelliJ became too big/slow/feature creeped and I am not having good time with the latest code completion changes, so I am considering dropping it (PyCharm as well) for something more light-weight.
Well, I did comment once on the Koltin Jetbrains forum, about how hard they make to download ... just kotlin ... outside of the jetbrains ide and their response, on their forum, was that they are intentionally make hard to avoid the jetbrains ide while using kotlin now technically you still can, kotlin is open source, and you can download it standalone, if you search hard enough i am not really sure, how jetbrains th…
do you have a link for this?
Why use this over TypeScript?
Primarily because Kotlin is not a superset of javascript and thus does not inherit the quirks of javascript. Other than that, if your backend is kotlin then you can potentially share (non JVM dependent) business logic code with the backed. Same goes for android clients. Same interfaces can be be used in client and server.