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Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

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Post by VeejayRampay »

rfrey wrote: post #41
troika wrote: post #30

I've switched to https://deepstream.io for my projects. It's just the realtime aspect of meteor, but in an entirely different league when it comes to performance

"switched to"? Aren't you the CTO of Deepstream?

Looking at troika's submissions, there's one "Show HN" about Deepstream so yeah, definitely involved in the project. Don't understand why one would say "I've switched to" for an application they've created or contributed to, especially if there's proof in your history that you have marbles in the game.

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#52

Post by benjaminl »

devdoomari wrote: post #37
Blixs wrote: post #7

I speak from personal experience when I say companies are migrating away from Meteor. For me personally it's to a React/RxJS front-end stack in combination with a traditional Ruby/PostgreSQL/REST api back-end. This had the disadvantage of losing the back-end reactivity Meteor is known for, but at the same time it's a much more stable, decoupled and scalable stack. Meteor simply felt too much like a black box that cau…

Cloud Firestore has too many limitations on what it can't do... e.g. can't query with age > 10 and have it sorted by age edit: see benjaminl's comment on the wrong example CORRECT example: can't query with age > 10 and have it sorted by total_spent

Firebase Cloud Firestore is new product from Firebas and is much more flexible than Firebase Realtime Databse.

It can do accomplish that query. From the docs a similar query:

  citiesRef
    .where("population", ">", 100000)
    .orderBy("population")
    .limit(2)
https://firebase.google.com/docs/firestore/query-data/order-...

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#53

Post by rfrey »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #51
rfrey wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"switched to"? Aren't you the CTO of Deepstream?

Looking at troika's submissions, there's one "Show HN" about Deepstream so yeah, definitely involved in the project. Don't understand why one would say "I've switched to" for an application they've created or contributed to, especially if there's proof in your history that you have marbles in the game.

He also posted the who's hiring entries.

Regardless, deepstream seems pretty awesome.

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#54

Post by throwanem »

ordinaryperson wrote: post #33

So much hate for Meteor here, but I use it at work and it's been great for what we wanted. I inherited a vendor-built website that was Craft CMS (a Yii framework) sitting atop a Laravel application that was integrated with Google Maps and indexed by Solr -- debugging even a minor issue could take days. Meteor is fast and full-stack, no more knitting together 13 different frameworks. It's integrated with Apache Cordov…

> Is Meteor the answer for everything? Of course not.

It sure does claim to be.

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#55

Post by devdoomari »

benjaminl wrote: post #52
devdoomari wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloud Firestore has too many limitations on what it can't do... e.g. can't query with age > 10 and have it sorted by age edit: see benjaminl's comment on the wrong example CORRECT example: can't query with age > 10 and have it sorted by total_spent

Firebase Cloud Firestore is new product from Firebas and is much more flexible than Firebase Realtime Databse. It can do accomplish that query. From the docs a similar query: citiesRef .where("population", ">", 100000) .orderBy("population") .limit(2) https://firebase.google.com/docs/firestore/query-data/order-...

if you scroll down:

citiesRef.where("population", ">", 100000).orderBy("country")

is invalid...

EDIT: sorry got confused & posted wrong example (population/population vs population / country)

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#56

Post by DerWOK »

If you look at some quite active meteor open source repos with a non-trivial size, you may also see that meteor is still alive and kicking. ;-)

* WeKan - FOSS Trello clone https://github.com/wekan/wekan

* Rocket.Chat - FOSS Slack clone https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat

* Vulcan - React, GraphQL & Meteor toolkit https://github.com/vulcanjs/vulcan

* 4Minitz - FOSS Collaborative Meeting Minutes and Protocols WebApp https://github.com/4minitz/4minitz & https://www.4minitz.com/

Disclaimer: I'm one of the contributors of 4Minitz. ;-)

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#58

Post by j6m8 »

We used Meteor for a long time as our primary stack at my current company. We just finalized the switch to React/Webpack + AWS Lambda/DynamoDB this week.

The main motivator was that Meteor's big sell — the "zero-latency" data sync — wasn't enough to outweigh the overhead of having to keep up with the constantly shifting landscape of which libraries were now deprecated, which were suddenly "anti-patterns", which were suddenly insecure...

That being said, I still prototype all new projects with Meteor. It's by far the fastest to go from 0 to 60, and it's extremely pleasant to ignore data transit and focus on the Big Ideas.

tldr; Prototype things in Meteor because it's a great platform. Your production stack may or may not need the same things your prototype stack needs.

Re: Ask HN: Is Meteor.js still a thing?

#59

Post by M4v3R »

DerWOK wrote: post #56

If you look at some quite active meteor open source repos with a non-trivial size, you may also see that meteor is still alive and kicking. ;-) * WeKan - FOSS Trello clone https://github.com/wekan/wekan * Rocket.Chat - FOSS Slack clone https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat * Vulcan - React, GraphQL & Meteor toolkit https://github.com/vulcanjs/vulcan * 4Minitz - FOSS Collaborative Meeting Minutes and Protocols Web…

Thumbs up for Rocket.Chat, love it!
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