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iPhone X Teardown

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Yea, but that OS is everything. They barely make any software outside of it. And it's the best mobile OS by far.

> And it's the best mobile OS by far. And yet Android dominates the market share. I don't think iOS is the best mobile OS, let alone the best by far.

Android dominates because Apple refuses to sell $50 iPhones. iOS app revenues still outpace Google Play, Android is the OS of choice for people who use it like a feature phone.

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With how buggy iOS 11 is/was, it really does show where their focus has been.

Why, how buggy iOS 11 is/was? Works perfectly fine for me on my 7+.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/01/ios-11-predictive-text-...

This bug has been annoying me, my family and friends for several days now. Nearly everyone I️ know with an iPhone. And the suggestion is to break predictive text to fix it. I️ really wish I️ would have bought an Android.

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I think this personification of companies as people is misleading. Whose "focus?" Do you mean you think that the same people within Apple are working on both hardware and software, and are focusing more on hardware? Or that you think many people who write software have been re-educated, re-assigned, and are now working on hardware? I assume that the size of Apple's teams working on iPhone are limited by more than res…

Quality comes from feedback control systems. Quality of design comes from management oversight and correction. Fan-in is a concern. Orphaned teams become a concern at a tenth Apple’s scale. Informal networks and approval based on trust of people rather than examination of product is a concern. Executive attention is expensive.

Wow, I can apply every one of those to situations I’ve been in. What is fan-in?

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I think this personification of companies as people is misleading. Whose "focus?" Do you mean you think that the same people within Apple are working on both hardware and software, and are focusing more on hardware? Or that you think many people who write software have been re-educated, re-assigned, and are now working on hardware? I assume that the size of Apple's teams working on iPhone are limited by more than res…

The hardware engineering is much more deliberate and well planned/orchestrated than the software. IMO it’s less “focus” and more having to rely on third party manufacturers who will push back due to liability. iOS 11 is a beta quality product. One org that I’m familiar with has a 5x increase in help desk calls and replacements, mostly around the voice phone components failing.

Most iOS updates are smooth and trouble free. Still the far best mobile platform in terms of actually receiving software updates and new features. In the case of iOS 11 I would guess all the software changes required for the iPhone X has caused a temporary a dip in quality. I don't think it's representative of the quality of iOS updates overall. Things could be a little bit rocky going forward though as Apple will continue support pre-iPhone X era hardware for the next 3-5 years. I believe this is the first time they've had to support two distinctively different flavors of iOS UI in this way at least since the iOS6->7 days.

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Why, how buggy iOS 11 is/was? Works perfectly fine for me on my 7+.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/01/ios-11-predictive-text-... This bug has been annoying me, my family and friends for several days now. Nearly everyone I️ know with an iPhone. And the suggestion is to break predictive text to fix it. I️ really wish I️ would have bought an Android.

It'll probably be fixed in a week or two at most and you'll forget it ever happened except when recounting stories of the good ole days of technology 20 years from now.

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If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.

Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.

Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?

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post #235

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If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.

Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.

Being a former android user, I see no fundamental difference in how notification are implemented for email between the two platforms.

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>Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. This is a feature, not a bug.

Chat heads are a great feature, and of course you can turn them off if you like. iOS doesn't even give you the option to do that.

Chat heads are a terrible feature, and now that you told me I can turn them off I’m going to go do that immediately.

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The most impressive thing to me is how similar the iPhone X is to the original iPhone (shown side by side in the second picture). Ten years ago, Apple totally nailed the design. Same buttons, same speaker design, same full panel display. Even design work by a company as talented as Apple, you might expect that a new model ten years into the future may look quite different, but it looks the same.

"The most impressive thing to me is how similar the iPhone X is to the original iPhone (shown side by side in the second picture)."

It makes the original iphone seem impressive, perhaps, but now ten years on we see that there has been no real innovation in the phone form factor since then.

They're all just (iphones).

I personally always liked the qwerty slate form factor of the Moto Q / Nokia E71 / Blackberry Classic. But there were many other different and interesting form factors (Nokia communicator, Helio Ocean, that square phone from Motorola that opened out a keyboard like a knife...).

It's interesting and fun to browse through this nice visual history:

https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/05/the-evolution-of-ce...

... and it makes me wish there were some new form-factor innovation in mobile phones.

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post #238

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the sim is no piece of plastic. SIM cards are computers! they have a CPU. they have memory, a file system. they run applets, yes Java applets. sims are one of the most secure pieces of technology out there, part of the Secure Element standard. the sim is responsible for a lot of your phones security. lots of encryption keys live on the sim and nothing can access them at all. I am much much happier to trust the hardwa…

>I am much much happier to trust the hardware than software for some of this Most SIMs I know are black boxes, with 0 public documentation. Taking into account that they are issued by telecom companies I don't trust them at all.

the reason there are multiple sim manufacturers and SIM cards interop seamlessly into any device is because they are built entirely on published standards. there is tons documentation, usually in the form of giant specifications. look for Secure Element. Java card. global platform. UICC.
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