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Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by hsod »

nodesocket wrote: post #36
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

Lots of left-leaning people have frustrating experiences with Twitter support as well

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by SamReidHughes »

keganunderwood wrote: post #89
hkmurakami wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? The "appropriate" size and role of the federal government is still a very worthwhile and earnest point of debate, and that is a classic left/right issue.

Sorry but nobody is for small government. Nobody is for a balanced budget. It is a farce. We all have two piles: a. Things we want the government to do b. Things we don't If you're for a balanced budget, you'll oppose current tax cut plans and demand government cut spending. The problem is of course where do we cut spending? Find me a dollar of "waste" and I'll show you someone who benefits from it. Can we please sto…

Trump has actually proven his bone fides for small government in the sense of reducing regulatory burden.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by hsod »

forgottenpass wrote: post #162
chiaro wrote: post #45

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"I'm personally center left" ... Hopefully I don't get dang'd by observing how common a meme this is. Companies, public and private, have the legal right to take on whatever political position they have, and beyond having the power to control dialogue, there is no way they can abdicate exercising that power; it's unavoidably emergent from their technology that someone's tweet has to show up top when you log in. This…

"I'm personally center left" ... They said "center left." That, by definition, means they're not going to be in lockstep. So you're taking someone that effectively said: "I generally agree with Foo but some of their actions are not to my taste" and responded by finding them guilty of association with the enemy. -- For the sake of argument, I'm ignoring the fact that the "reactionary" label is thrown around to mean a…

SJWs, free speech, and safe spaces are all indeed reactionary talking points.

From Wiki: "A reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society"

Seems dead-on to me.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by CalChris »

leereeves wrote: post #85
oblio wrote: post #68

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All of America's extreme leftists would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Tumblr accounts? :) (For the downvoters, prove me wrong, how many votes did a far left party get in US elections in the past 20 years? Does the US even have a far left party? :) )

It's much more than a statistical anomaly. It's a rather large group of people, some quite famous and powerful. Lea DeLaria: "Or pick up a baseball bat and take out every f-cking republican and independent I see" Madonna: "I’ve thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House." Mickey Rourke: "I’ll meet [Trump] in a hotel room any motherf-cking day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger." Bow Wow: "@realD…

Mickey Rourke is a Republican who endorsed Ben Carson.

https://www.thewrap.com/mickey-rourke-calls-donald-trump-big...

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Post by gspetr »

dragonwriter wrote: post #160
gspetr wrote: post #154

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The man literally visits Soviet Union as his idea of honeymoon after his wedding. There's circumstantial evidence he was even a Stalinist at one point: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sanders+stalinist+kibbutz You do realize how closely your argument resembles a "No True Scotsman" in this case, yes? Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge." Person A: "…

Sanders is certainly a socialist by some definitions; and there are certainly definitions of socialism by which it is exclusively a far-left ideology. The problem is that they aren't the same definitions, and the game being played of pretending that they are is the fallacy of equivocation.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-...

"These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?"

Would you describe Venezuelan regime as center-left social democrat?

Who's the banana republic now? Indeed, the irony would be amusing if only this failure did not leave millions and millions of people with no money, no food and no hope.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by gspetr »

oblio wrote: post #159
gspetr wrote: post #154

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The man literally visits Soviet Union as his idea of honeymoon after his wedding. There's circumstantial evidence he was even a Stalinist at one point: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sanders+stalinist+kibbutz You do realize how closely your argument resembles a "No True Scotsman" in this case, yes? Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge." Person A: "…

Were any policies he actually proposed socialists? 1. People can change. 2. People might moderate their actions when faced with reality (heck, even Trump does/is forced to). From what I remember back when he was campaigning, most things he was proposing would definitely fall under socialist-democrat in Europe.

If he became president and succeeded at first he might have been widely celebrated, as comrade Chavez was. Then he would have likely won the re-election in a landslide that dwarfed Reagan's victory and implemented policies further to the left.

And then a decade in the future (might even be more than that, US is resilient) it would have blown up in everyone's faces, just as it did in Venezuela.

The general public has a short attention span, it seldom thinks of what would happen 10-15 years down the road.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #135
lsmarigo wrote: post #38

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Please re-consider your use of the term "SJW" as a derogatory term. I had hoped that garbage would stay on reddit. Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were 'social justice warriors'. The more accepted definition is of an extreme leftist which in truth is statistically irrelevant % of the population. SJW is a strawman term that's great for dividing us and categorizing those with opposing views as the boogeyman.

Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were both Republicans. Sorry, downvoter, but they were. You can, as they say, look it up.

P.S. King famously urged that people be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.

I cannot think of anything more antithetical to the modern "SJW"/"privilege theory"/"identity politics" point of view.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

lsmarigo wrote: post #142
leereeves wrote: post #55

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America's extreme leftists (AKA SJWs) aren't center-right. They want socialism, they want to silence everyone who disagrees with them, they are willing to use any tactic (including censorship and even violence) to get what they want, and yet, in a startling lack of self-awareness, they consider the center-right half of the country "Nazis". This attempted act of censorship by an ex-Twitter employee is a fairly tame ex…

The narrative you describe in your post is largely fabricated to rally, enrage and indoctrinate individuals. It's disheartening how deeply the "us vs. them" mindset dominates our politics. You used the term "they" or "them" seven times in your short post. Seven. Who are they? A few trolls on twitter does not equal a meaningful movement. Categorizing half of the American populace based on the views/actions of fringe n…

"Categorizing half of the American populace based on the views/actions of fringe nutjobs is absurd"

1) Lena Dunham has called for the extinction of white men. 2) The President of the United States then sent his teen daughter to do an internship with this "fringe nutjob".

Sorry, this crazy, hateful bigot is not "fringe", she's squarely in the mainstream of the modern Democratic Party. They need to fix that if they're planning to ever win a national election again.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by sumedh »

te_chris wrote: post #86
sumedh wrote: post #73

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Looks like you have not heard of this saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Sigh, really? Have I called for his imprisonment? That senile old racist can say what he likes, just do it somewhere else. In fact, I seem to recall him wanting to jail and muzzle his opponents so, if anything, I’m rising above and turning the other cheek....

> just do it somewhere else.

Why?

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by bad_user »

nodesocket wrote: post #36
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

> It also unfortunately is a thing here on HN as well. To this day I still get downvoted not for the content of my comments, but because solely people "recognize" me.

Out of curiosity, how do you know that?

Personally I think the audience on HN is pretty diverse and the response depends a lot on context (TFA), so assuming that you're not writing dumb things, an expressed opinion might not be as popular as you think depending on the audience inclined to read the comments of a particular article. For example I criticize Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and others equally and noticed that for the same negative opinion about them I got vastly different responses, depending on article and timing.

Also, don't get me wrong, but noticed your Twitter profile in your description — and an account with only 286 followers isn't so popular as to be recognizable across the web.

I'm not disputing that you've been harassed on Twitter, I also have friends that have been harassed and Twitter did nothing about it. Just saying, in regards to thinking that your opinions are rejected due to whom you are, just make sure you're not paranoid.

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