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#171

I don't understand, when they got rid of the audio jack and added wireless charging, why does the phone have ports at all? Couldn't they make a port-less phone?

I personally would not want to have wireless charging only for this device. Given the number of different places in which I want to charge my phone over the course of a week, and how few of them have wireless charging stations, that would be a big problem.

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#172

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I see it as the reverse. Apple is definitely a hardware company that makes a solid OS and generally makes mediocre software outside of that

Yea, but that OS is everything. They barely make any software outside of it. And it's the best mobile OS by far.

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser.

Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

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#173

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I think this personification of companies as people is misleading. Whose "focus?" Do you mean you think that the same people within Apple are working on both hardware and software, and are focusing more on hardware? Or that you think many people who write software have been re-educated, re-assigned, and are now working on hardware? I assume that the size of Apple's teams working on iPhone are limited by more than res…

A company absolutely has a zero-sum 'focus' just like a person. You dismiss the idea that resources are the limiting factor, but that is absolutely what the limiting factor is. You really think that with unlimited money they couldn't have better software? They could, but they don't because it does not have enough of a return on investment. They 'focus' their resources on areas that will return them profit.

You're casually insulting everyone who is working hard on the software. Consider that the team sizes are surprisingly small. Consider that throwing more people at a project does not scale, and famously just slows things down after a certain, fairly small threshold. Consider that software is still really really freaking hard to do. Unlimited money does not solve all problems, contrary to what you may think. You can't easily buy your way out of technical debt, time limits, or legacy architectural decisions.

Ascribing the bugs to malice or carelessness rather than the fact that this shit is difficult is very unkind. Source: know many people who have spent last few months feverishly working nights and weekends.

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16424740/google-pixel-2-x...

The Pixel is a great example of how Google is trying to cast off the constraints of Android's distribution model. I really think they can do it, but it's going to take a long effort. Eventually all the cheap phones will be Android and Google/Samsung/Apple will fight for the premium market. And it's unclear how long Samsung will remain in the fight given their lack of control over the OS and hardware integration.

Will Samsung even want to stay in the fight if they can get themselves as the screen manufacturers for every phone? They make money on every iPhone already selling parts, not sure if they do so for Pixels. No sense digging for gold if you can sell the shovels though

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#175

The SIM card holder's size shows its age. It is literally as big as the A11 package. Such archaic things need to evolve or disappear. What's the status on electronic SIM? We don't need a piece of plastic that holds a numeric key and takes up EXPENSIVE real-estate in one of the most densely packed electronic devices in the world. Apple doesn't have the leverage to sway the standards?

Its funny that in the old days the main selling point of GSM/SIM-Cards were that you could physically change from phone to phone and kept your line (and contacts), now we the recent race to get things as little as possible and that virtually no one is using by default any of the extra-GSM functionalities has (contact backup), coming back to a non-physical identity as the solution (like in the CDMA days) that will for…

Completely agree -- the magic of SIM cards is that they allow you to quickly switch providers. I find it ridiculous that people are clamoring for eSIMS, which as you point out is not moving forward, but moving backward to the old CDMA days when you had to plead with your carrier to reconfigure your phone.

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#176

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Multiple differences between Samsung and Apple: 1. Samsung was a semiconductor maker, that successfully moved up to make phones. Apple was a integrator of third party chips that successfully went down to own many of the chips. 2. Apple's chips are significantly better than the competition. Partly because the chip division has a captive customer whose requirements are more apparent, plus no middlemen thanks to the ver…

4. Is absolutely wrong in every aspect. Most "innovation" was bought tech (primesense, for instance). The ARMv8 ISA was finalized ages before the chips got designed. Middle of 2011 IIRC.

Having the foresight and capabilities to make the right acquisitions at the right times is just good business. Splitting hairs over whether the technology was internally developed or purchased is irrelevant to the point being made about the exclusivity of the hardware.

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#177

I don't understand, when they got rid of the audio jack and added wireless charging, why does the phone have ports at all? Couldn't they make a port-less phone?

As I understand it, Apple committed to X years of the lightning port to certain MFi vendors, which (if true) is just another checkmark in the "why have ports" column.

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#178
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Hardware company or Software company, we can always debate about it and choose whatever we want to say. In few years Apple will be a "Trillion dollar company" and there won't be any debate or doubt about it.

More like in a few weeks.

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#179

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So do you mean as soon as it was sold in 1998 to Audi, a German group, right? And what it has to do with the "abysmal" finish of Italian high end car?

Land Rovers are designed, manufactured and (around the corner from me in Herefordshire) tested in the UK. Jaguar Land Rover is owned by Tata. Does that make them Indian cars?

Quality apparently is on par with other tata models, so from my humble point of view I'd say yes.

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#180
> Today, we're taking apart Apple's 18th iteration

That seems a bit exaggerated.

  Original
  3G
  3GS
  4
  4S
  5 and 5C
  5S
  6 and 6 Plus
  6S, 6S Plus, SE
  7 and 7 Plus
  8, 8 Plus, X
I count 11 iterations. 18 total products.
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