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Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by moduspol »

mattnewton wrote: post #100
timthelion wrote: post #85

I don't understand, when they got rid of the audio jack and added wireless charging, why does the phone have ports at all? Couldn't they make a port-less phone?

Diagnostics, developer experience and backups are all hard to do wirelessly, but I am sure they are thinking about it.

We (developers) can already build and run wirelessly since a year or so ago, and iTunes will back up your iPhone wirelessly, too.

It does need to be plugged in once and then enabled, but after that you're off to the races. We're actually pretty close. It wouldn't surprise me if the next iPhone had no ports, although they'll probably save that for a non-S year.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by abritinthebay »

cjsuk wrote: post #82
hinkley wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Have you seen the tear down of the old MacBook power bricks? Check it out if you haven’t. There’s a lot of tech in there to improve efficiency (ie keep that tiny brick from melting)

They’re shit. The inrush current is so high it actually damages the plugs with arcing!

You're describing the cheap Chinese made knock-offs. They look almost perfectly identical and generally you can only tell by opening them up.

They're awful. There are a LOT of teardowns of those. It's scary.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by fiatpandas »

alanbernstein wrote: post #128
fiatpandas wrote: post #60

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The "jelly roll" is just one packing technique. You can pack flat sheets, so in theory can create an L shape. Another guess is with an L shaped battery, thermal expansion makes it tricky because the L shaped compartment has a sharp inner corner which runs this risk of stressing the battery when it expands. A square compartment does not have that issue. In any event, Apple knows how to produce weird shaped batteries.…

Which Macbook? The ones I've seen have a series of rectangular cells to fill an awkward space.

See here: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/DgO4M5UNBt1xfvqm.h...

Irregular in 3 dimensions (terraced).

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by valuearb »

vilmosi wrote: post #119
valuearb wrote: post #24

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Samsung's screens are excellent, but their CPU/GPU performance is a generation (or more) behind Apple. Plus they are way behind in integrated functionality such as motion coprocessor, ai processing, and secure enclave. I don't know how true this is, but I've heard that the Samsung OLED screen on the iPhone X is significantly better than the ones Samsung puts on it's flagship phones, in color fidelity especially. Part…

>>> I don't know how true this is, but I've heard that the Samsung OLED screen on the iPhone X is significantly better than the ones Samsung puts on it's flagship phones I can't believe that. I just can't. All iPhone X reviews mention the screen tech difference, all of them say how they don't notice a difference.

Most reviewers (and people) don't appreciate color fidelity. Jon Gruber was just talking about how Google spent the time/effort to make the colors of the Pixel display more accurate and natural, and then people complain they don't "pop" and look as good as the super-saturated colors on other android phones.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by robin_reala »

abritinthebay wrote: post #132
cjsuk wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re shit. The inrush current is so high it actually damages the plugs with arcing!

You're describing the cheap Chinese made knock-offs. They look almost perfectly identical and generally you can only tell by opening them up. They're awful. There are a LOT of teardowns of those. It's scary.

I bought a MacBook on eBay that came with a fake charger. Had to threaten to report them before they sent me a real one.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by valuearb »

parent5446 wrote: post #95
fermienrico wrote: post #90

The SIM card holder's size shows its age. It is literally as big as the A11 package. Such archaic things need to evolve or disappear. What's the status on electronic SIM? We don't need a piece of plastic that holds a numeric key and takes up EXPENSIVE real-estate in one of the most densely packed electronic devices in the world. Apple doesn't have the leverage to sway the standards?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16424740/google-pixel-2-x...

The Pixel is a great example of how Google is trying to cast off the constraints of Android's distribution model. I really think they can do it, but it's going to take a long effort. Eventually all the cheap phones will be Android and Google/Samsung/Apple will fight for the premium market. And it's unclear how long Samsung will remain in the fight given their lack of control over the OS and hardware integration.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by GeekyBear »

fermienrico wrote: post #90

The SIM card holder's size shows its age. It is literally as big as the A11 package. Such archaic things need to evolve or disappear. What's the status on electronic SIM? We don't need a piece of plastic that holds a numeric key and takes up EXPENSIVE real-estate in one of the most densely packed electronic devices in the world. Apple doesn't have the leverage to sway the standards?

The current nano-SIM standard is something that was created by Apple.

https://www.cnet.com/news/sim-card-maker-apples-design-won-s...

Since then, Apple has been pushing for carriers to support a new standard for an embedded chip in the device to hold the data currently stored on one or more removable SIM cards.

>The Apple SIM supports wireless services across multiple supported carriers, which can be selected from a user interface within their operating systems, removing the need to install a SIM provided by the carrier itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_SIM

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by abritinthebay »

elicash wrote: post #110
duskwuff wrote: post #94

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iFixit has historically rated Apple devices rather harshly for their (non-)repairability. 6/10, from them, is high praise.

iPhones have gotten 6's and 7's in recent years.

mainly, I think, they realized it's a trend and they can't just give every single thing 0/10 each time.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by valuearb »

jack6e wrote: post #33
marze wrote: post #6

The most impressive thing to me is how similar the iPhone X is to the original iPhone (shown side by side in the second picture). Ten years ago, Apple totally nailed the design. Same buttons, same speaker design, same full panel display. Even design work by a company as talented as Apple, you might expect that a new model ten years into the future may look quite different, but it looks the same.

> The most impressive thing to me is how similar the iPhone X is to the original iPhone (shown side by side in the second picture). And really, how similar every non-notebook/desktop Apple product has been to each other one. Design-wise, the iPhone was just an iPod with a bigger screen; iPod touch/nano/other variations are obviously just an iPhone in different sizes; the watch is just the iPod nano on a wristband; iP…

The iPod team was given first shot at making the Apple phone. They lost to the Mac team. Design-wise the iPhone was just the (secret) Mac tablet with a smaller screen.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by tigershark »

serf wrote: post #91
tigershark wrote: post #77

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Oh..I didn't know that your Ferrari had a shit finish, you must have been quite unlucky...

I can personally attest to the poor quality of Lamborghini paint and coating from 98 til 2011. The dashes split apart, all the clear coat on the carbon elements falls off, the paint oxidizes. Park a 2003 Murcielago next to a 98 Lexus or Toyota (of any kind). You'll be real surprised which one weathered better. Anyway, I digress, but I can agree with the point that 'high end car' is a lot different than 'high quality…

So do you mean as soon as it was sold in 1998 to Audi, a German group, right? And what it has to do with the "abysmal" finish of Italian high end car?
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