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Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by GeekyBear »

criddell wrote: post #10
alvis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strategically, I think Apple has made a right move by internalising all the hardware designs. That said, as many have suggested, the new iPhone is no more than just another faster, smaller, and costlier.

Doesn't Samsung do that as well though? They make screens, and CPUs and many of the other components in a modern phone, don't they? I'm wondering when Apple will start making their own camera sensors.

Samsung has a problem with adding features to their devices that are simply not well executed.

For instance, from the NY Times review of the Galaxy Note 8:

>Some of the biometrics, including the ability to unlock your phone by scanning your face or irises, are so poorly executed that they feel like marketing gimmicks as opposed to actual security features.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/technology/personaltech/s...

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Post by Illniyar »

mankash666 wrote: post #2

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

"Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". "

Is that really a common belief? I know many people who think the opposite - apple is a hardware company.

In fact Tim Cook went out of his way several times to remind people that apple isn't a hardware company.

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

jonknee wrote: post #56
alaaibrahim wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was Alan Kay Edit: Adding source https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...

To be fair, that wouldn't stop Steve from claiming it was his idea.

"I did not say it."

"You will."

(Oscar Wilde, if memory serves)

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Post by wmeredith »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #44
mankash666 wrote: post #2

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

Who thinks Apple is a software company? Because they're wrong. Apple started off making hardware and they've always made hardware. They make software to compliment their hardware.

This. They've become more and more a hardware company as they give away almost of their software now to move more IRL gadgets.

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Post by Spooky23 »

ForrestN wrote: post #61
wnevets wrote: post #37

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With how buggy iOS 11 is/was, it really does show where their focus has been.

I think this personification of companies as people is misleading. Whose "focus?" Do you mean you think that the same people within Apple are working on both hardware and software, and are focusing more on hardware? Or that you think many people who write software have been re-educated, re-assigned, and are now working on hardware? I assume that the size of Apple's teams working on iPhone are limited by more than res…

The hardware engineering is much more deliberate and well planned/orchestrated than the software.

IMO it’s less “focus” and more having to rely on third party manufacturers who will push back due to liability.

iOS 11 is a beta quality product. One org that I’m familiar with has a 5x increase in help desk calls and replacements, mostly around the voice phone components failing.

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Post by wmeredith »

doe88 wrote: post #66

It seems this is the second times after the Apple Watch 3 in september that the Wifi/BT module is branded with the Apple name. Does someone knows if they have designed their own Wifi/BT chipset or if it is licensed from somebody else?

They're def doing something of their own with BT. The airpods use it, but it's been highly modified.

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Post by tigershark »

TylerE wrote: post #65
hinkley wrote: post #57

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People used to bitch about why people thought the MacBook was so cool when it was “only” 5mm thinner than anything else on the market. The low end doesn’t understand why people pay so much more for fit and finish. Except automobiles. Everyone seems to accept and even approve of the high end for cars.

Fit and finish on many "high end" cars is actually pretty abysmal. Especially basically anything Italian.

Oh..I didn't know that your Ferrari had a shit finish, you must have been quite unlucky...

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Post by sk2code »

Hardware company or Software company, we can always debate about it and choose whatever we want to say. In few years Apple will be a "Trillion dollar company" and there won't be any debate or doubt about it.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by mikeash »

robotresearcher wrote: post #29
marze wrote: post #18

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True, but look at the change phones from ten years pre-iphone vs iPhone. http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/lists/by_year.html Huge change. But after Apple nailed the modern smartphone design on the first try, ten years later it is remarkably unchanged.

Remarkably, yes. But this release removing the biggest, most used, iconic button might not be the ideal moment to claim "same buttons!"

75% the same after ten years is not too shabby!
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