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Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by zimpenfish »

nostromo123 wrote: post #121
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #79

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> The group of people who literally self identify as Nazis is a very very small group. Luckily self-identification isn't the most reliable way to categorize things. A robin doesn't have to say "I am a robin" in order for you to say "Oh, look, a robin." It's not like suddenly thousands of years of development of classification systems doesn't exist anymore. The group of people who, whether they proclaim it or not, exp…

Same goes for the other side. It is a fact that in Germany people have been attacked by antifa on the street for "looking like a Nazi" (and no, they were not sporting Hitler moustaches). Bottomline is that you do not get to judge who is what based on some self-made criteria, just like the legal system enforces a presumption of innocence even in a case of "he was standing over the dead body with bloody hands".

> It is a fact that in Germany people have been attacked by antifa on the street for "looking like a Nazi"

Do you have a source for that?

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by nodesocket »

bad_user wrote: post #126
nodesocket wrote: post #119

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> says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. I see this all the time on HN, mostly Europeans. This is false. US freedom of speech is universal, including Nazi or hate. There is no such clause that prohibits hate speech. That's Europe's thing.

I specified that I'm an European in that same sentence, so that's a straw man.

Sorry, I missread. That’s my bad. You are right, you did say you are European. Apologize.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by leereeves »

mozumder wrote: post #129
leereeves wrote: post #120

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For the same reason electricity providers and ISPs shouldn't be allowed to. The companies that make products essential to modern society shouldn't be allowed to decide who can participate in modern society.

Just.. not use iPhones? These are unnecessary products. Please don't make smartphones necessary products in everyday life.

I wonder how many people consider smartphones necessary products.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

nostromo123 wrote: post #121
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The group of people who literally self identify as Nazis is a very very small group. Luckily self-identification isn't the most reliable way to categorize things. A robin doesn't have to say "I am a robin" in order for you to say "Oh, look, a robin." It's not like suddenly thousands of years of development of classification systems doesn't exist anymore. The group of people who, whether they proclaim it or not, exp…

Same goes for the other side. It is a fact that in Germany people have been attacked by antifa on the street for "looking like a Nazi" (and no, they were not sporting Hitler moustaches). Bottomline is that you do not get to judge who is what based on some self-made criteria, just like the legal system enforces a presumption of innocence even in a case of "he was standing over the dead body with bloody hands".

The "other side" of?

I can't help but wonder why you immediately jump to what they look like rather than by what they say and do in publicly viewable spaces. How much might we wager that, if you actually have a source to show for your fact, what you're talking about has less than 1/10000th the occurrence rate of what the rest of us are talking about?

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

lsmarigo wrote: post #38
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

Please re-consider your use of the term "SJW" as a derogatory term. I had hoped that garbage would stay on reddit. Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were 'social justice warriors'. The more accepted definition is of an extreme leftist which in truth is statistically irrelevant % of the population. SJW is a strawman term that's great for dividing us and categorizing those with opposing views as the boogeyman.

Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were both Republicans.

Sorry, downvoter, but they were. You can, as they say, look it up.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

breakingcups wrote: post #105
leereeves wrote: post #85

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It's much more than a statistical anomaly. It's a rather large group of people, some quite famous and powerful. Lea DeLaria: "Or pick up a baseball bat and take out every f-cking republican and independent I see" Madonna: "I’ve thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House." Mickey Rourke: "I’ll meet [Trump] in a hotel room any motherf-cking day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger." Bow Wow: "@realD…

No please. There's enough room to discuss incidents of actual violence. I'd like to see them, backed up by sources. It would be interesting to compare statistics. 7 celebrities talking shit does not equate a massive, unified, violent left-wing movement in the US with conspiracy-like powers and tactics to censor the right. I think the right is pretty well represented in the US.

Steve Scalise.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by leereeves »

oblio wrote: post #127
arkh wrote: post #88

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All of America's neonazis would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Voat accounts? :)

As an outsider, I don't see the far left having an influence on American politics. The far right, on the other hand, does seem to have one. Or am I mistaken?

I think the far left's primary influence in 2016 was in pulling Hillary to the left during the primary, which caused lasting damage to her campaign (as she said) and helped lead to Trump's election.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

glogla wrote: post #124
lsmarigo wrote: post #38

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Please re-consider your use of the term "SJW" as a derogatory term. I had hoped that garbage would stay on reddit. Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were 'social justice warriors'. The more accepted definition is of an extreme leftist which in truth is statistically irrelevant % of the population. SJW is a strawman term that's great for dividing us and categorizing those with opposing views as the boogeyman.

But as a conservative, he probably is against Martin Luther King and what MLK was after, no? So calling MLK a SJW would make sense from conservative point of view.

"But as a conservative, he probably is against Martin Luther King and what MLK was after, no? "

No.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Turing_Machine »

spondyl wrote: post #37
tryingagainbro wrote: post #4

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someone has to do it...they can't have a board meeting each time they deactivate any random account. I'm sure for VIP accounts safeguards will be put in place. Why was the employee allowed access after being fired /leaving is the question.

As I understand it, it was their last day with the company so they'd still have had their credentials.

Hmm... don't most companies remove access to critical systems as soon as it becomes known that an employee is leaving? For whatever reason?

At some companies, turning in your two weeks notice gets you escorted off the premises immediately, with your personal items following you in a box.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by feborges »

I am surprised at how many cynical people think that asking for Trump to be removed from Twitter has anything to do with censorship or violation of first amendment rights.

Twitter is a private business and its content is controlled by the company itself. If Twitter comes to the point when they would delete Trump's account, that would be the equivalent of kicking him out of your house. It is your house, your rules.

Right wingers tend to conveniently bend the borderline between public and private whenever it benefits them.

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