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Post by nostromo123 »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #79
stale2002 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The group of people who literally self identify as Nazis is a very very small group. The group of people that get accused of being Nazis can span all the way up into the hundreds of millions (Ex: Many people call Trump a fascist, and therefore his X million supports would be fascist under these accusations)

> The group of people who literally self identify as Nazis is a very very small group. Luckily self-identification isn't the most reliable way to categorize things. A robin doesn't have to say "I am a robin" in order for you to say "Oh, look, a robin." It's not like suddenly thousands of years of development of classification systems doesn't exist anymore. The group of people who, whether they proclaim it or not, exp…

Same goes for the other side. It is a fact that in Germany people have been attacked by antifa on the street for "looking like a Nazi" (and no, they were not sporting Hitler moustaches).

Bottomline is that you do not get to judge who is what based on some self-made criteria, just like the legal system enforces a presumption of innocence even in a case of "he was standing over the dead body with bloody hands".

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by nostromo123 »

echlebek wrote: post #8
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

There are literally nazis promoting themselves on twitter without censorship, so I disagree with your claim.

There are also uncensored calls for "killing all whites", instituting sharia, and murdering gays. Your point is?

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Post by glogla »

lsmarigo wrote: post #38
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

Please re-consider your use of the term "SJW" as a derogatory term. I had hoped that garbage would stay on reddit. Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln were 'social justice warriors'. The more accepted definition is of an extreme leftist which in truth is statistically irrelevant % of the population. SJW is a strawman term that's great for dividing us and categorizing those with opposing views as the boogeyman.

But as a conservative, he probably is against Martin Luther King and what MLK was after, no? So calling MLK a SJW would make sense from conservative point of view.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by nostromo123 »

localhost3000 wrote: post #51
gaius wrote: post #14

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There are literally nazis promoting themselves on twitter without censorship There's all kinds of genocide being promoted on Twitter, and the so-called Nazis are literally the only ones being censored. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander says I. Either Twitter - a for profit entity - is a common carrier or they impose editorial standards, they can't be allowed to get away with playing both sides as it…

“So-called nazis”, huh?

In Germany you are called a Nazi by some very left wing politicians if you say that maybe the rejected asylum seeker from Pakistan who cut the throat of his 2 year old daughter* should be deported.

* Current news! They just caught him on the run in Spain a few days ago.

So you'll excuse me if I don't take every accusation of nazism 100% seriously.

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Post by bad_user »

nodesocket wrote: post #119
bad_user wrote: post #42

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I am against censorship, however as an European I agree with our country's constitution that says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. Of course who should have the power to identify hate speech and censor content and what the definition of hate speech is, that's debatable. However a platform like Twitter is also private property, another right protected by the constitution and peop…

> says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. I see this all the time on HN, mostly Europeans. This is false. US freedom of speech is universal, including Nazi or hate. There is no such clause that prohibits hate speech. That's Europe's thing.

I specified that I'm an European in that same sentence, so that's a straw man.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by oblio »

arkh wrote: post #88
oblio wrote: post #68

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All of America's extreme leftists would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Tumblr accounts? :) (For the downvoters, prove me wrong, how many votes did a far left party get in US elections in the past 20 years? Does the US even have a far left party? :) )

All of America's neonazis would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Voat accounts? :)

As an outsider, I don't see the far left having an influence on American politics. The far right, on the other hand, does seem to have one. Or am I mistaken?

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Post by zimpenfish »

nostromo123 wrote: post #125
localhost3000 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“So-called nazis”, huh?

In Germany you are called a Nazi by some very left wing politicians if you say that maybe the rejected asylum seeker from Pakistan who cut the throat of his 2 year old daughter* should be deported. * Current news! They just caught him on the run in Spain a few days ago. So you'll excuse me if I don't take every accusation of nazism 100% seriously.

Do you have a source for this?

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Post by mozumder »

leereeves wrote: post #120
mozumder wrote: post #103

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Why wouldn't Apple have editorial control over their own private marketplace?

For the same reason electricity providers and ISPs shouldn't be allowed to. The companies that make products essential to modern society shouldn't be allowed to decide who can participate in modern society.

Just.. not use iPhones?

These are unnecessary products.

Please don't make smartphones necessary products in everyday life.

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Post by zimpenfish »

stale2002 wrote: post #104
ajuc wrote: post #74

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Self-identification isn't the one true criterium. See "I'm not racist but ...".

And yet, if you go around claiming that their are millions or hundreds of millions of Nazis these days, as many people are claiming, you'd be wrong. The brush that people are painting about who is a Nazi is very broad, these days.

> if you go around claiming that their are millions or hundreds of millions of Nazis these days,

Do you have a source for that?

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