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Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by sdfkljs »

product50 wrote: post #98
nodesocket wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

The only fact in your statement is that you received threats. Rest is all your interpretation which suits your argument especially how Twitter didn't look into your matter because of your political inclination. I am surprised that Twitter didn't react more strongly especially given your claim that you received death threats on the platform. Maybe there is something missing here too?

If an employee feels they can deactivate Trump's account of their last day, and seeing the left lean of all top employees, I think its pretty clear what the culture is like inside the company, and that this kind of abuse is probably widespread.

If the messaging and actions from the company focused on supporting free speech, listening to all points of view, etc. then you might think otherwise. But it is clearly hostile to the right, and even publicly mulls over deleting the President's account because he supposedly bullied Kim Jong.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by guywaffle »

leereeves wrote: post #85
oblio wrote: post #68

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All of America's extreme leftists would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Tumblr accounts? :) (For the downvoters, prove me wrong, how many votes did a far left party get in US elections in the past 20 years? Does the US even have a far left party? :) )

It's much more than a statistical anomaly. It's a rather large group of people, some quite famous and powerful. Lea DeLaria: "Or pick up a baseball bat and take out every f-cking republican and independent I see" Madonna: "I’ve thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House." Mickey Rourke: "I’ll meet [Trump] in a hotel room any motherf-cking day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger." Bow Wow: "@realD…

Eminem isn’t a good example. He hates politicians and Hollywood “elites”, and Trump is both

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by mozumder »

leereeves wrote: post #43
mozumder wrote: post #7

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Just treat these companies as media companies with editorial discretion instead of as utilities. Really, the moment you start to take advertising, you're responsible for content. Professional advertisers have specific rules about content they can associate with. I've worked with them and they're strict about that, for example, they can't show a beautiful fashion spread next to a bloody image in a magazine. That's jus…

> the creation of more competing social media outlets Like gab.ai? Not allowed on iPhones. Perhaps Twitter could be considered a media company with editorial discretion, but Apple? Either treat these giant SV companies as utilities, or break them up.

Why wouldn't Apple have editorial control over their own private marketplace?

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by stale2002 »

ajuc wrote: post #74
stale2002 wrote: post #67

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The group of people who literally self identify as Nazis is a very very small group. The group of people that get accused of being Nazis can span all the way up into the hundreds of millions (Ex: Many people call Trump a fascist, and therefore his X million supports would be fascist under these accusations)

Self-identification isn't the one true criterium. See "I'm not racist but ...".

And yet, if you go around claiming that their are millions or hundreds of millions of Nazis these days, as many people are claiming, you'd be wrong.

The brush that people are painting about who is a Nazi is very broad, these days.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by breakingcups »

leereeves wrote: post #85
oblio wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of America's extreme leftists would probably fit in a 200sqm hall, with room to spare. Why worry about a statistical anomaly? Just because they have Tumblr accounts? :) (For the downvoters, prove me wrong, how many votes did a far left party get in US elections in the past 20 years? Does the US even have a far left party? :) )

It's much more than a statistical anomaly. It's a rather large group of people, some quite famous and powerful. Lea DeLaria: "Or pick up a baseball bat and take out every f-cking republican and independent I see" Madonna: "I’ve thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House." Mickey Rourke: "I’ll meet [Trump] in a hotel room any motherf-cking day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger." Bow Wow: "@realD…

No please. There's enough room to discuss incidents of actual violence. I'd like to see them, backed up by sources. It would be interesting to compare statistics.

7 celebrities talking shit does not equate a massive, unified, violent left-wing movement in the US with conspiracy-like powers and tactics to censor the right. I think the right is pretty well represented in the US.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by Daishiman »

adventured wrote: post #24
irulebush wrote: post #15

I frequently come across tweets by neo-nazis promoting their hateful ideas. We can't let this go on in the name of free speech.

Let's see how your logic extrapolates.... I frequently come across Socialists and Communists promoting their violent, hateful ideas. We can't let this go on in the name of free speech. After all, Communism murdered over a hundred million people in the 20th century. All Socialist and Communist propaganda - including all images of Mao, Che Guevara and the hammer & sickle - must be banned from all platforms, to avoid th…

This is a willful misinterpretation of the ideas of Marxists and an underplaying of the fact that National Socialism is inextricable from genocide.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by f_allwein »

So any customer support employee has the right to disable accounts without any checks? That would be worrisome.

For context, I used to work for Google's Search Quality Evaluation team, which was in charge of removing spam from search results. No junior user could remove anything without several other people approving it, and senior colleagues were extremely diligent and meticulous. It would have been unthinkable for anybody to remove a website for personal reasons (as in this case), as seems to be the case here.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by guywaffle »

arkh wrote: post #96
bad_user wrote: post #42

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I am against censorship, however as an European I agree with our country's constitution that says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. Of course who should have the power to identify hate speech and censor content and what the definition of hate speech is, that's debatable. However a platform like Twitter is also private property, another right protected by the constitution and peop…

Freedom of speech is an absolute. You have it or you do not. The moment you start restricting it you don't have any. I'm from France and there is no freedom of speech here. If you think laws made to fight against "hate speech" will stay in their current form you forget about what happened with special anti-terrorist laws. They always get applied to more and more things. What is accepted speech today can be hate speec…

Yes, but Twitter isn’t the government so they can’t deny someone their freedom of speech. Only the government can do that

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by maccard »

koonsolo wrote: post #62
pls2halp wrote: post #23

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What about the literal communists? There’s just as many of those.

I don't understand why you are getting downvoted. Stalin killed millions of soviets. All central and eastern european countries can testify how terrible it was when communists invanded their countries and took everything from them, including all posessions and freedom. When my mother in law (who always lived in Slovakia) was in Belgium, we saw a guy with a soviet hammer and sickle t-shirt. She was shocked why anyone…

Nazism [0] is broadly defined as fascism with: > Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism

Communism [1] is broadly defined as > which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production

The issue that people have with Nazis is mostly the systematic racism. A better comparison is fascism to communism, which is a broader political term. It’s thrown around in an insulting way just as communism is, but without the same intent.

If you compare a modern day Marxist to a modern day Nazi it would be a better comparison

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by sdfkljs »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #75
nodesocket wrote: post #52

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Absolutely. I've been lucky enough to be self-employed for a bit, but if you walk into any bay area startup nearly everybody will be a vitriol against Trump and conservatives very publicly. It is not even subtle. I'm the kind of person who actually enjoys a debate, and my lack of PC offends some. If I were an employee, probably would be problematic.

I find it interesting that people feel the need to defend Trump because he’s in “their team”. Can’t help but feel this is an effect of the two party system. He’s objectively a problematic person as a leader but since there is no other conservative around now conservatives feel the need to clinch to him more than is healthy.

> He’s objectively a problematic person as a leader

This is the problem right here. You are speaking from your bubble. I don't see how people can use "objectively" for such broad declarations such as "problematic person".

The MSM is ridiculously left biased. They don't even see that they are either.

Record highs in the stock market, +3% GDP growth, low unemployment. I'm curious, how else do we measure a President?

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