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Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by bemmu »

Hoff wrote: post #20

I can't tell if the programmer was using the VoIP mechanisms to allow the app to run continuously in the background, though it does look that the programmer was attempting that. Apple isn't going to allow continuous background. If your application needs that, then that's likely best an Android application and not an iOS application. And this comment: "It’s just not possible to tell them to hold the chatline, send a P…

Yep, it's an opportunity, and there's already a certain someone on HN who would already have all the agreements with IRC networks in place too (they usually don't allow multiple connects from one IP address).

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by parallax7d »

lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

God forbid clever hacks we may want to run on our own hardware.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by lol »

lukev wrote: post #7

At this point, anyone who develops an iTunes app is bringing this on their own head. Apple's arbitrary stupidity is a known risk . If you don't want to get bit, then don't play with the pit bull.

Story:

Guy Screws Up

Paranoid Anti-Apple Fundamentalist Moron immediately blames Apple

24 like-minded retards remind me that HN is no longer a place where intelligence or thought are rewarded.

YOU are the cancer that is killing YC.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by char »

The first iPhone app I submitted got rejected for having "minimum user functionality". I resubmitted it, and it got approved. I'm not saying that this will necessarily work in your case, but it might be worth a try. Sometimes approval/rejection is simply a matter of which person is looking at the app.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by [deleted] »

parallax7d wrote: post #32
lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

God forbid clever hacks we may want to run on our own hardware.

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Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by invisible »

0x44 wrote: post #21
lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

The updates on a linked article[1] seem to point to his distribution credentials having expired. 1) http://www.roomsapp.mobi/blog/2010/07/roomspulled-from-store...

Your reading of that article isn't accurate. His distribution provisioning profile (basically his name, address, phone, etc) expired. All he had to do was go in and (for some unknown reason) just save his profile again to "renew" it. You'd think he'd get 5 emails that his profile was about to expire (why expire at all?).

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by invisible »

illumin8 wrote: post #27
lukev wrote: post #7

At this point, anyone who develops an iTunes app is bringing this on their own head. Apple's arbitrary stupidity is a known risk . If you don't want to get bit, then don't play with the pit bull.

It seems the developer just let his 1 year distribution certificate expire. This is really careless on his part and blame should not be automatically placed on Apple. If you distribute a web app using SSL, and let your Verisign certificate expire, are you going to complain that Verisign is unfair because now your customers are getting security warnings/errors in their browsers?

False. He did not let his distribution certificate expire - his "distribution provisioning profile" expired.

Read this carefully: http://www.roomsapp.mobi/blog/2010/07/roomspulled-from-store...

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by mcritz »

parallax7d wrote: post #32
lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

God forbid clever hacks we may want to run on our own hardware.

Feel free to jailbreak your phone.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by yonilevy »

troystribling wrote: post #30
kanwisher wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a separate mode for background audio, pandora uses it

I thought this was playing audio not streaming it. A streaming app would need both background network access and the ability to play audio in the background. See the Background Audio section at http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/iPho... . It is not clear here that network access is permitted. Being vague in the permitted application functions for each mode makes it difficult to know what exactly…

Audio streaming applications don't need the the voip setting. The somewhat tricky idea is that as long as a background-audio-marked application keeps playing audio its process won't get suspended and so it will be able to do whatever networking it needs.
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