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Re: The End of Gratipay

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Post by whit537 »

whit537 wrote: post #40
forsaken wrote: post #38

They were one of the pioneers in the space of sustainability around open source, which led to many of the wonderful projects we have today. Thanks to Chad for putting so much work in over the years towards a worthwhile mission.

Thanks for the kind words! I won't pretend I didn't put a lot of work into Gratipay over the years, but the reality is that so did a lot of other people. The most meaningful part about Gratipay for me is and has been the community building it. Gosh, I want to start naming names but then I'll forget someone. Aww, heck ... Thank you clone1018, co-owner of Gratipay, LLC! Thank you mattbk, jessa, rohitpaulk! Thank you ed…

Okay, now tell me who I forgot (I"M SORRY!!!!)! :D

Re: The End of Gratipay

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Post by whit537 »

whit537 wrote: post #41
whit537 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the kind words! I won't pretend I didn't put a lot of work into Gratipay over the years, but the reality is that so did a lot of other people. The most meaningful part about Gratipay for me is and has been the community building it. Gosh, I want to start naming names but then I'll forget someone. Aww, heck ... Thank you clone1018, co-owner of Gratipay, LLC! Thank you mattbk, jessa, rohitpaulk! Thank you ed…

Okay, now tell me who I forgot (I"M SORRY!!!!)! :D

Thanks to all our translators!

Re: The End of Gratipay

#43

Post by bitL »

dorfsmay wrote: post #27
clone1018 wrote: post #16

Back in 2015 Gratipay hosted it’s second ever retreat; the idea was a full weekend of hacking and building with all of our normally-remote members of the team. The thing you need to know about Chad is he is exceptional at bringing people together and spreading his passion. I arrived a bit early to the retreat and was tasked by Chad to cook dinner. It sounded easy enough; I need to make dinner for 10 or so people, som…

Thanks for confirming something I suspected. During the crisis a few years ago, everything I read about him seems to point that he is a reasonable person and coming from the right place, with the right intention. I had a major issue how people ganged up on him. There were lists circulated at the time calling people to block anybody who was following him on twitter etc... (got blocked by several people because of this…

It's pretty common to see psychopaths gang up on people threatening their ways, such as pure altruists. Heck, the whole mankind history is about it. Don't be surprised if that was the reason he was targeted.

Re: The End of Gratipay

#44

Post by nkantar »

userpass wrote: post #21
traverseda wrote: post #8

At the end of the "gittip crisis" it seems that they capitulated to the demands of a group of users who felt unsafe sharing information about how much money they made. Users who had mostly already left. I think this was a big mistake, as the "leader-board" features provided important social-proof that gratipay worked. That you could make money from it. Tracking how much money projects gave to other projects was good…

They could have made it opt out.

A partial leaderboard would've likely been no better (and possibly worse) than no leaderboard.

Re: The End of Gratipay

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Post by Changaco »

userpass wrote: post #21
traverseda wrote: post #8

At the end of the "gittip crisis" it seems that they capitulated to the demands of a group of users who felt unsafe sharing information about how much money they made. Users who had mostly already left. I think this was a big mistake, as the "leader-board" features provided important social-proof that gratipay worked. That you could make money from it. Tracking how much money projects gave to other projects was good…

They could have made it opt out.

We did. In fact the option to hide one's income still exists in Liberapay today, more than 3 years after the initial implementation.

Re: The End of Gratipay

#47

Post by hinkley »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #18

I've been trying to figure out how to get paid to do open source for a long time. The popularity of my open source projects has changed over this time, but this might give you an idea of the effectiveness of each approach if you need an alternative. I used Gittip for a while, and it was a really nice platform, and netted me $5-15/month if I recall correctly. I left after some regulatory issues added an annoying amoun…

    I've been trying to figure out how to get paid to do open source for a long time.
Don't. Having supplemental income makes your life better in ways that quitting your day job won't. It reduces the size of your N months of living expenses and makes it easier to fill up that fund.

When you can walk away from a job it makes a big difference in your experience of it. Feeling trapped in a job you're not enjoying makes you even more unhappy. Feeling like nobody values what you do is rough. Not being able to afford to take a job doing something you'd love or really believe in, because it doesn't pay enough or has a 70% chance of cratering, is an experience I would spare anyone if I could.

But get over the hump and you're your own person. You can say no if they ask you to do something unethical. Take risks. Invest in yourself.

Keep taking the extra money. Put half of it in the bank. Keep some emotional distance from your day job. Enjoy the freedom.

Re: The End of Gratipay

#48

Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

hinkley wrote: post #47
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #18

I've been trying to figure out how to get paid to do open source for a long time. The popularity of my open source projects has changed over this time, but this might give you an idea of the effectiveness of each approach if you need an alternative. I used Gittip for a while, and it was a really nice platform, and netted me $5-15/month if I recall correctly. I left after some regulatory issues added an annoying amoun…

I've been trying to figure out how to get paid to do open source for a long time. Don't. Having supplemental income makes your life better in ways that quitting your day job won't. It reduces the size of your N months of living expenses and makes it easier to fill up that fund. When you can walk away from a job it makes a big difference in your experience of it. Feeling trapped in a job you're not enjoying makes you…

I think everything you said is valid, but largely tangental to the subject of getting paid to do open source. I should clarify that I want to get paid to work on my open source projects, not just any arbitrary project. I probably wouldn't take a pay cut to work on someone else's FOSS project.

Re: The End of Gratipay

#49

Post by colindean »

whit537 wrote: post #40
forsaken wrote: post #38

They were one of the pioneers in the space of sustainability around open source, which led to many of the wonderful projects we have today. Thanks to Chad for putting so much work in over the years towards a worthwhile mission.

Thanks for the kind words! I won't pretend I didn't put a lot of work into Gratipay over the years, but the reality is that so did a lot of other people. The most meaningful part about Gratipay for me is and has been the community building it. Gosh, I want to start naming names but then I'll forget someone. Aww, heck ... Thank you clone1018, co-owner of Gratipay, LLC! Thank you mattbk, jessa, rohitpaulk! Thank you ed…

!m

We did some really cool stuff, for sure.

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