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Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by 0x44 »

lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

The updates on a linked article[1] seem to point to his distribution credentials having expired.

1) http://www.roomsapp.mobi/blog/2010/07/roomspulled-from-store...

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by campnic »

Huge market, single point of distribution with known history of 'complicated' app validation. I feel bad for the developers in the same way I feel bad for people that lose in the final stages of a poker tournament. Its not always the quality of your app or idea, but sometimes its just luck.

With the recent ruling reinforcing the legal standing of jail-breaking a device to load applications, does that mean that third party application market places are also legal? I know there has been some debate about that, would be an interesting spot for someone to consolidate a multi platform app store.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by megafotze »

0x44 wrote: post #21
lurch_mojoff wrote: post #12

The whole story is very skimpy on details but it seems this guy is trying to pull off quite a bit of hacky and "clever" tricks (I'm gathering this from the posts about two previous rejections). Considering this, this doesn't seem to be as frivolous act of Apple as it is made to be. On top of this, the complaint that Apple do not respond doesn't ring true with me. In my experience, at the very least in the past 6 mont…

The updates on a linked article[1] seem to point to his distribution credentials having expired. 1) http://www.roomsapp.mobi/blog/2010/07/roomspulled-from-store...

rofl

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by Anechoic »

rimantas wrote: post #3
jacquesm wrote: post #2

That really sucks, but it is the risk you take when you allow someone else a say in the operation of your business. If you want to have a solid income stream you'd do well to stay miles away from walled gardens where some flunky behind a desk can destroy your business with a click of their mouse.

Indeed. Port it to Android and make a bunch of money there. Or in Nokia's OVI store.

Heh. I really feel sorry for devs who submit to the Ovi store, it's like Nokia is going out of their way to prevent me from buying apps there.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by mfukar »

javanix wrote: post #11
mfukar wrote: post #10

Man, this is depressing. As are Apple's terms for the iPhone/iPad store. I'd advise anyone who wants to develop for the iPhone/iPad to stop dealing with iTunes, distribute their work themselves (free and open source) and invite people to jailbreak their products in order to install it.

And lose out on whatever chance they had of making a decent profit? I doubt that this jailbreak ruling is going to result in a spate of common-joe iPhone hacking.

I agree it's not ideal profit-wise, and neither do I expect every iPhone user to be interested, let alone technically savvy, enough to jailbreak their iPhone. But I find the fact that the executable won't be free even if my source code is (and I don't mean free as in "free of charge" - people deserve to get paid for their work and then some) a farce, at best.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by illumin8 »

lukev wrote: post #7

At this point, anyone who develops an iTunes app is bringing this on their own head. Apple's arbitrary stupidity is a known risk . If you don't want to get bit, then don't play with the pit bull.

It seems the developer just let his 1 year distribution certificate expire. This is really careless on his part and blame should not be automatically placed on Apple.

If you distribute a web app using SSL, and let your Verisign certificate expire, are you going to complain that Verisign is unfair because now your customers are getting security warnings/errors in their browsers?

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by _pi »

illumin8 wrote: post #27
lukev wrote: post #7

At this point, anyone who develops an iTunes app is bringing this on their own head. Apple's arbitrary stupidity is a known risk . If you don't want to get bit, then don't play with the pit bull.

It seems the developer just let his 1 year distribution certificate expire. This is really careless on his part and blame should not be automatically placed on Apple. If you distribute a web app using SSL, and let your Verisign certificate expire, are you going to complain that Verisign is unfair because now your customers are getting security warnings/errors in their browsers?

SSL isn't a distribution channel. SSL is a authentication mechanism.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by GrandMasterBirt »

As the creator of typefrag pointed out... once you rely on a platform as part of your business model, you take that platform ugliness and all with you. Don't like it? Don't develop for the app store. There is no better way to protest than to not support them. But we all know the allure is all too much for developers and they will eat apple's cake at any price.

Re: Rooms irc app removed after 4 minutes in app store

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Post by troystribling »

kanwisher wrote: post #19
troystribling wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NPR application appears to be using it to stream audio which is not strictly VOIP.

There is a separate mode for background audio, pandora uses it

I thought this was playing audio not streaming it. A streaming app would need both background network access and the ability to play audio in the background. See the Background Audio section at http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/iPho.... It is not clear here that network access is permitted. Being vague in the permitted application functions for each mode makes it difficult to know what exactly os permitted.
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